# Clamping & dust collection on wallmounted onefinity CNC **URL:** \ **Category:** Original/PRO Series (Buildbotics) (Gen 1)\ **Created:** [October 11, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729 "2023-10-11T00:52:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AbnormalProjects](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c57346/32.png) [@AbnormalProjects](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/AbnormalProjects)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/1 "2023-10-11T00:52:08Z")
Hey all - still kind of new to this but I have a wall mounted Onefinity X50 and I was curious if anyone has a good low profile clamping that doesn’t get in the way of the dust boot? I’ve mostly been cutting it plywood and I’ve tried to maximize the material which often results in the clamps interfering with the dust boot. Also would be open to an alternative method for dust collection than the suck-it. Thanks a bunch in advance! B ---
**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/2 "2023-10-11T01:03:02Z")
Hey Borys, > [@AbnormalProjects](#): > > Also would be open to an alternative method for dust collection than the suck-it. - [What is the Best Dust Boot for the Onefinity](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-is-the-best-dust-boot-for-the-onefinity/14685/4) > [@AbnormalProjects](#): > > I was curious if anyone has a good low profile clamping that doesn’t get in the way of the dust boot? - [This clamping method](https://youtu.be/c4Om1UopHX4?t=2) never gets in the way of the dust boot or anything Welcome to the forum! ---
**Author:** ![makerjace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@makerjace](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/makerjace)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 4:39am UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/3 "2023-10-11T04:39:29Z")
Welcome to the forum @AbnormalProjects 👋🏼 I agree with @349iq2345 - a vacuum table is a great solution for a wall mounted set-up. If you have a 3D printer and a small vacuum pump, you can make little pods that hold your material pretty rigidly. That is an inexpensive solution and good for getting a taste for how nice vacuum workholding really is. That said, I have been working on a project to bring vacuum tables to this community of Onefinity users (since I am one myself). We just launched and I think [our complete kit](https://airweights.com/products/airweights-complete-kit) would work well for your application, especially for maximizing yield when cutting sheets of plywood. We will soon be offering a free 3D printable vacuum chuck, like the ones mentioned above, on our website to support people who are looking to experiment with this workholding approach. I also saw a cool video on instagram of a [hydraulic cylinder that pushes laterally to clamp stock on a wall mounted X50](https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyJ1NICR8uM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==). That is another neat approach that may also work for your set-up. However, lateral clamps like that can distort stock and subsequent cut parts if sufficient structure isn’t left after the cuts (like tabs and/or a boarder). I really respect the ethos of this community (among many things I respect about it) and would not be mentioning this here unless I genuinely felt I had a solution to offer. If this is too forward and promotional in nature, please feel free to flag this post and/or remove it. Here’s another thread to check out if you’re interested: [Vacuum Hold Down](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/vacuum-hold-down/21828) Hope this helps! ---
**Author:** ![AbnormalProjects](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c57346/32.png) [@AbnormalProjects](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/AbnormalProjects)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/4 "2023-10-11T15:10:59Z")
Thanks! These vacuum systems are very cool! An OTS solution is a bit out of budget at the moment but I do have a few 3D printers so i might try to design and print some vacuum modules and bury them into the spoilboard. Also going to try to modify the OOPS clamps by swapping the thumbscrews + dialling in the screw length to make them a bit more lo-profile also getting a longer moustache on the dustboot. Thanks again for the great ideas! b ---
**Author:** ![PaulBraun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@PaulBraun](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/PaulBraun)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/5 "2023-10-13T13:41:14Z")
Another option is to not use a dust boot, and put your dust collection on the wall beneath your unit. Make yourself an angled shelf/tray and connect the vacuum hose to that. While it may be a little more work to setup initially, you’ll never have to fuss with hoses and deal with boots when changing tools. You can also add sides to help with the downdraft. Then you can use whatever clamps you like (or screws, glue/tape, brad nails etc.) ---
**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/6 "2023-10-13T13:50:42Z")
Hey Paul, have you tested something like this? Usually there is a lot of dust that is not catched if the extraction does not happen directly where it is created. And wood dust is dangerous, it is cancerogenic. ---
**Author:** ![PaulBraun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@PaulBraun](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/PaulBraun)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/7 "2023-10-13T14:23:40Z")
Yes, I have it working in my shop. I just added clear pvc on a retractable window shade to help with the downdraft and it works beautifully. ---
**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/8 "2023-10-13T14:26:51Z")
Hey Paul, and you have no enclosure around the machine, besides this? ---
**Author:** ![PaulBraun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@PaulBraun](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/PaulBraun)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/9 "2023-10-13T14:32:39Z")
This was during the prototyping stage, but it’s functionally the same. I do plan to make the side wings a little deeper ![DustCollectorWall](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/0/e/0e168162b84ef2d20442cee03688de9c14711ed5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/10 "2023-10-13T16:42:30Z")
Hey Paul, wow, now this is interesting! Seems to me nearly as good as an enclosure, at least you’re going into this direction. Thank you for showing this here! PS: Have you ever thought on mounting it rotated by 90° (X axis horizontally and Y axes vertically) to have no rail in the way of the dust? ---
**Author:** ![PaulBraun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@PaulBraun](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/PaulBraun)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/11 "2023-10-13T16:53:24Z")
I thought about it a bit, but since this is the 1F supported orientation, I started this way. With putting a piece of sheetmetal flashing above that rail, it stays pretty clean. ---
**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/12 "2023-10-13T17:09:09Z")
Hey Paul, > [@PaulBraun](#): > > Yes, I have it working in my shop. > > I just added clear pvc on a retractable window shade to help with the downdraft and it works beautifully. How long are you running it this way? I ask because even in “normal” orientation, the ball screws are not sealed on this machine, and if you are not able to catch all wood dust very effectively, wood dust will accumulate in the ball nuts. > [@Is use without dust collection OK?](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/is-use-without-dust-collection-ok/14472/2): > > unfortunately, oiled mechanics like the [ball screws](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_screw) of the Onefinity CNC are totally incompatible with wood dust. It mixes with oil and slowly bakes a oil-wood dust mix into the ball screw which will at some point block the machine, as shown here: > > > [@Troubleshooting: Rail is getting hung, stuck, grinding, or moving in opposite direction](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/troubleshooting-rail-is-getting-hung-stuck-grinding-or-moving-in-opposite-direction/10826/1): > > > > ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/2X/1/129ce68106c514bba1d614de8e6bd86fc82ccb28.jpeg) > > See this [FAQ: Troubleshooting: Rail is getting hung, stuck, or out of alignment](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/troubleshooting-rail-is-getting-hung-stuck-or-out-of-alignment/10826) > > Therefore in the industry, CNCs for milling wood have their mechanics enclosed with [bellow covers](https://hennigworldwide.com/bellow-covers/), as you can see e.g. [here](https://www.cnc-step.com/cnc-mill/), but can also be found on some on hobbyist machines. [![CNC-router-T-Rex-Servo-bellows](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/c/e/ceb6b81fade5386cf2860116b922dbc66b08125e.jpeg) Image: Bellows covers on the ball screws on T-Rex CNC Mill](https://www.cnc-step.com/cnc-mill/) ---
**Author:** ![PaulBraun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@PaulBraun](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/PaulBraun)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/13 "2023-10-13T17:37:18Z")
The shield keeps the chips off, but yeah, I still do my monthly maintenance and cleaning. I haven’t seen any giant sawdust boogers like the one you’ve shown. 😅 Plan to do more work in the next couple of months, so I’ll see how well the downdraft works overall. ---
**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/14 "2023-10-13T17:40:11Z")
Hey Paul, it’s a matter of cost of course, on a hobbyist machine. The example shows a big professional machine for furniture industry. But you can get [bellow covers in all sizes](https://hennigworldwide.com/bellow-covers/) ---
**Author:** ![PaulBraun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@PaulBraun](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/PaulBraun)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/15 "2023-10-13T19:15:30Z")
Thanks @349iq2345 for the bellows link. I may get there some day… but after the next item on the wish list is a spindle. ---
**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/16 "2023-10-13T22:55:42Z")
Hey Paul, I mention these covers because I find them necessary and want to have some. The challenge will not be the bellows themselves, but designing 3D-printed parts at both ends that take nothing away from the travel. Yes, a spindle is something I would recommend ---
**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/17 "2023-10-14T20:23:51Z")
Hey Paul, > [@PaulBraun](#): > > I haven’t seen any giant sawdust boogers like the one you’ve shown. 😅 unfortunately you cannot see how this accumulates, as this is hidden inside the carriage. The one Onefinity showed here was only discovered when it began to block the ball screw, so maybe this occured months after the user had started to work with insufficient dust extraction / maintenance. I bought the machine for a professional purpose so the maintenance that Onefinity expects from the hobbyist users is nothing I want to do. What I will do is try to use a very effective wood dust extraction, but you don’t really know how much the maintenance Onefinity calls the users for really prevents saw dust accumulating inside, or how much the wipers are able to catch the dust before it enters the ball nut / carriage on the ball screw. I just know (and knew this before), that generally oiled mechanics are incompatible with wood dust (period), so I want them to be enclosed, so I plan to retrofit the bellows somehow. I will of course show it here if I implement a solution. ---
**Author:** ![reclaimed.customs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@reclaimed.customs](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/reclaimed.customs)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/18 "2023-10-16T15:18:02Z")
Something that’s worked well for me is a combination of the oops clamps and the Micrjig matchfit system. ![IMG_5023](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/0/5/053da3836520196abc2ab09e229bcaeccbdc0e1d.jpeg) ![IMG_5024](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/9/f/9f137b7323f5bb113648939ac9172f518cb6e27b.jpeg) ![IMG_5025](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/f/b/fbec1ee7fb947129e0492b1116ee4ad7138b9f0c.jpeg) I us the NightHawk dust boot which stays fixed with the spindle, this is one example but they make a version for the Makita router too [Nighthawk Dust Boot for 80mm Spindle With 2.5 Dust Collection. - Etsy](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1073779176/nighthawk-dust-boot-for-80mm-spindle) Onefinity sells a less expensive set of the oops clamps made for c-clamp > **[Oops Clamps for Threaded Inserts - Large Set | Onefinity USA](https://www.onefinitycnc.com/product-page/45-piece-oops-clamp-set)** > > New and Improved! The plastic parts are now injection molded using a high strength, high stiffness glass fiber reinforced material. These new Oops clamps are awesome! For use with waste board with threaded inserts. Oops Clamps are ultra low profile,... and you can get the Matchfit hardware on Amazon > **[Microjig Matchfit DV-HL1.5K6 Dovetail Hardware 1.5", 6-Piece - Amazon.com](https://www.amazon.com/Microjig-Matchfit-DV-HL1-5K6-Dovetail-Hardware/dp/B0BN6ZHLJF?tag=benmyers-20)** > > "MicroJig’s MATCHFIT Dovetail Hardware has taken the woodworking community by storm, allowing users the freedom to use, hold and fasten parts where and how they need them without expensive T-Track components. And now we’ve made the hardware even... ---
**Author:** ![RexH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c37758/32.png) [@RexH](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/RexH)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/19 "2023-10-16T20:28:45Z")
Here is what I use for low profile hold-downs. ![IMG_2327.HEIC](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/1/d/1d257220e9b807d7e0bac05f8744c143e031a33b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SundownWoodworks](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/sundownwoodworks/32/5367_2.png) [@SundownWoodworks](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/SundownWoodworks)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729/20 "2023-11-05T22:16:52Z")
I’ve just gotten my X50 set up and running on it’s new wall mount. I chose to rotate the layout 90 degrees, knowing that this is not supported by 1F. Honestly though, the amount of dust that doesn’t accumulate on the rails is a tremendous bonus. Here’s how I modified the QCW frame to use the wall mount brackets. Basically, I bored a hole in the end plugs to bolt the hanging sprockets to the X oriented tubes. A shim is needed when reinstalling the end plug to account for play. ![IMG_4021](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/8/8/88833ce5eb3255755e7772d75f38be971c0be33e.jpeg) ![IMG_4022](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/2/9/29b63c70c85521ea097e0f2a9f925d2672d2a64f.jpeg) About the low profile clamps, here’s my version #2. The original was too tall, and I busted my dust boot , dammit! The step blocks are much stronger than bolts on the clamp bottom. The top bolts are furniture bolts from the hardware store, the T-track nuts are modified from the Oops clamps that I really didn’t like. ![IMG_4047](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/d/2/d29f8bd8f6c236e9fb9000bb796bcc006dac26d6.jpeg) ![IMG_4024](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/b/f/bf7d0f916be3f5956ac697bc1bc860698fe1ec75.jpeg) [Next page](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/clamping-dust-collection-on-wallmounted-onefinity-cnc/22729.md?page=2)