# Journeyman Pro with QCW Frame & Rolling Stand extended off spoil board **URL:** \ **Category:** Accessories\ **Created:** [December 23, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/journeyman-pro-with-qcw-frame-rolling-stand-extended-off-spoil-board/24194 "2023-12-23T17:23:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/journeyman-pro-with-qcw-frame-rolling-stand-extended-off-spoil-board/24194/2 "2023-12-23T17:34:49Z")
Hey tKC, > [@Question about Wasteboard Size](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/question-about-wasteboard-size/23410/7): > > Note that when you use the QCW frame, the milling bit will **not** move exactly over the area where the workarea seems to be, i.e. between the four machine’s feet, but its movement area is much shifted towards front because the bit and the Z slider are not exactly in the X axis but attached to the front side of the X carriage. So **there is a rather large region that cannot be accessed by the bit in the rear of the QCW frame** , of where the t-tracks reach, and where you could also make the wasteboard slats much shorter since neither you can surface that area nor can you mill something there. Correspondingly, **there is a rather large workarea where the milling motor and the bit (and the dust boot!) protrude the QCW frame beyond the front**, where you will have no support for a wasteboard, so workarea that is wasted, and that you have into account when building a table and more specifically, an enclosure! Because of this, don’t build a table or enclosure that ends at the machine’s front feet. See [Dust boot overhang](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/the-table-basic/3787/99) and more links below for exact dimensions. > > Note that the shift of the workarea with respect to machine’s feet (and thus the inaccessible, wasted area on the rear of the wasteboard slats when using the QCW frame) differs a bit depending on whether you have the old Z-16 or the new [Z-20 Z assembly](https://www.onefinitycnc.com/product-page/z-20-heavy-duty-z-slider) and of course also whether you have the 65 mm or the [80 mm spindle mount](https://www.onefinitycnc.com/product-page/80mm-spindle-mount), as each results in a slightly different position of the center of the bit. > > I think someone measured the useless area on the rear one day, but I couldn’t find it anymore for this post. Since the exact distance differs a bit depending on the options above, I think you should measure it on the machine (and report it here!) > > **This phenomenon can only be avoided by not using the QCW frame and making a machine base that has its wasteboard where the machine’s workarea is.** > > > [@Elite Table Builds](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/elite-table-builds/18240/101): > > > > You might be interested to see this: > > > > - [Cutting area location](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/cutting-area-location/1586/10) > > - [Spoilboard placement](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/cnc-table-hindsight-20-20/5965/51) > > > > > [@Suckit dust shoe Bristles causing blockage](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/suckit-dust-shoe-bristles-causing-blockage/14577/21): > > > > > > #### See also: > > > > > > Additionally, the following can be of help: > > > > > > > [@1st post. Size matters and vertical clamping for finger joints & tenons](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/1st-post-size-matters-and-vertical-clamping-for-finger-joints-tenons/18074/3): > > > > > > > > - > > > > - [Dust boot overhang: Front](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/the-table-basic/3787/99), → [Rear](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/the-table-basic/3787/103) → [Front 2](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/the-table-basic/3787/98) → [Rear 2](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/the-table-basic/3787/102) > > > > - ([What is the Best Dust Boot for the Onefinity?](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-is-the-best-dust-boot-for-the-onefinity/14685/4)) > > > > > > > > - [Cutting area location](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/cutting-area-location/1586/10) > > > > - [Spoilboard placement](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/cnc-table-hindsight-20-20/5965/51) > > > > - [Height of the y-axis rail](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/height-of-the-y-axis-rail/3611/2) > > > > - [Dimensions of the holes for bolts in the feet](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/woodworker-foot-profile/9915/7) > > > > - [Onefinity Foot Diagram](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/onefinity-foot-diagram/13526) > > > > > > > > See also the very popular threads full of information related to table dimensions: > > > > > > > > - [Cnc Table Hindsight 20/20](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/cnc-table-hindsight-20-20/5965) > > > > - [The Table basic](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/the-table-basic/3787) > > > > - [Table](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/search?q=table) > > > > - [Woodworker Table](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/search?q=Woodworker%20Table) * * * --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/journeyman-pro-with-qcw-frame-rolling-stand-extended-off-spoil-board/24194)._