# Journeyman Table **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [April 14, 2023, 5:13am UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/journeyman-table/20014 "2023-04-14T05:13:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 17
**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/journeyman-table/20014/17 "2023-11-16T12:48:06Z")
Hey Robert, > [@RJK75](#): > > A additional clarification if your using the qcw is anything actually bolted down to a table or is it free floating on the four leveling feet. I ask because I know carbide 3d is totally against attaching to a table for risk of damage to the machine if it’s not perfectly level twisting the structure. The adjustable feet, called “Any Surface Leveling System” and that are now included in a QCW frame, are what makes it possible to _adjust coplanarity_ (=“twisting”) on the fly. The question is if it’s reasonable to buy the rather expensive QCW frame just for this feature. Most people here build an anti-torsion box of plywood (which can be much stiffier than the QCW frame) and put it on a table that has leveling casters which allow to adjust coplanarity too (if you are willing to bend downwards to adjust them each time after having moved the table :)) > [@Elite Table Builds](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/elite-table-builds/18240/102): > > the QCW Frame, when it came out, provided what the Onefinity machine was lacking to be a complete machine: **A machine base**. But > > - it is rather expensive > - It is by far not as stiff as a [welded steel base](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/qcw-stand-kreg-wobble/18573/4) (okay, no one would expect that). It was even reported that it bent when drilling/sinking on a workpiece > - There is a rather large wasteboard area that you can’t use at the rear (you could even leave that area out when putting MDF slats on it), and a wasteboard room at the front that is clearly missing, as the milling motor **is not** located over the area with the T-tracks. > > The advantage is that the _Any Surface Leveling Feet_ **are now included** (before, you had to order them separately [here](https://www.onefinitycnc.com/product-page/any-surface-leveling-system)) **so you can put the machine somewhere and [make it coplanar immediately](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-i-do-first/18349/6) (use fishing line method) and start to mill something.** > > > [@How to install QCW leveling feet](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/how-to-install-qcw-leveling-feet/12571/1): > > > > Step 3: install the connector for the levelling foot inside the rail opening > > > > ![thumbnail_Step 3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/9/0/90a8886a53dd87041ca152fa6adaa060f06569e0.jpeg) > > As for **rectangularity** (“squareness”) of QCW Frame, I haven’t checked yet. Will report as soon as possible. > > On the other hand, I think if you make a **2-3" thick (anti-)torsion box** out of 12 mm birch plywood, as many did here, as a machine base / table top, it would not make much sense to use the QCW frame, and such an (anti-)torsion box can be very, very stiff. However adjusting coplanarity would have to be done with shims under the feet then. > > > [@Out of square issue](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/out-of-square-issue/22570/2): > > > > By the way, when mounting the Onefinity CNC to a table top, I always suggest _not_ to use the wood screws that come with it, but [bolts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolt_(fastener)) instead, or better bolts in sleeves (e.g. brass) with bolts in it. Their diameter would need to be exactly 8 mm: > > > > > [@Installing the Journeyman](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/installing-the-journeyman/20535/5): > > > > > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/0/e/0e4ed7aef03d6eaf97bd41c2e9971b27edadb596.png) > > > > > > [RAIL END - 35mm.pdf](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/uploads/short-url/wQ8j0PjrzSLIjKeOG6m2liUunUV.pdf) > > I bought a QCW frame to analyze it (ouch to my wallet), and will use it for testing purposes and will report then. But I will not use QCW frame in my final assembly. However many people are very satisfied with it. --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/journeyman-table/20014)._