@Ken5 the Redline control software doesn’t have all those basic capabilities. Its very basic and trimmed down.
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So, who is gonna step up and start making shielded wiring for the onefinity machines? Is it a viable enterprise?
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I was thinking the same thing myself. I suggested it in the added features section. I got a friend I work with who lives near me and hes already bought 2 of thier machines. This is the 3rd. We had intensions on getting more. At least 4 more. The problems we have though. Im not sure anymore. These closed loop steppers don’t work. Its also written right in masso documentation. Its something we would buy for sure. Could probably due away with a few of the connectors along the way. They still need to be easily replaceable though. These wires move alot and overtime will break.
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I do not know the answer but I am curious about it. I just ordered my 3rd machine. the gen 2 redline combo.
The proper wire would be ideal. Biggest issue is the connectors and crimping tools used for them. That sleeve doesn’t look like its the right dimensions.
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so has anyone seen an alarm/stop for lost steps like the bit hitting something hard? I just ordered the BB to redline upgrade and im wondering if I should have gone Masso.
Masso isnt going to change the issue. If it thinks it in the right spot theres no alarm on either setup. Yes it does give alarms for some instances like that. Not against emi though.
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I can unfortunately say for sure that it will throw an alarm on Masso when you hit something big….
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Is it possible that the couplers are loose on your ball screws meaning the coupler slips occasionally? I cant remember if that was checked
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I dont think so when it switches axis’s. It started with x and moved to z. Still all showing some loss.
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Onefinity is working on an update to the firmware. So we’ll see if that helps.
Another Redline early adopter here - also having the same type of lost steps issues.
I first noticed this in Z when doing larger flat pockets. Interestingly though my machine is climbing UP in Z over time (cutting shallower). After running a lot of contoured pockets I also noticed that X and Y axes were ALSO losing steps and drifting.
Dumping some information on my setup and issues below to give the Braintrust on this forum more to work with:
- Machine: Foreman Elite Gen 1
- Assembled on a QCW frame with fixed stand (side note: don’t but it!)
- Redline spindle, 2.2KW air cooled
- Simple dust collection with a shop vac & dustopper (fully grounded)
- Airweights QCW slats (side note: get the normal 48”x48” mat direct from Airweights)
- I have my entire dust collection wrapped in grounding wire and its all tied in with the QCW frame and the redline controller case (and ground of course)
- Power and control wires are looped with some spacing and tied up to the bottom of my QCW - all wires are inside about a 1ft by 2.5ft area below the table before going to a respective outlet. My spindle cable is inside the factory cable trays.
- Running 30 minutes long on a handful of complex (but consistent depth) pockets runs me UP in Z about 2mm
- Running 1 hour+ starts to show obvious issues also in X&Y
- The issue is observed also when “dry running” the system with no workpiece, dust collection, or vacuum table. (in this case I probe Z, don’t move the touch probe, run a bunch of air moves, then re-probe Z and my Z coordinate changes by about 0.05” after 15-30 minutes)
I have also contacted Onefinity and received a simple response that the issue is expected to be resolved in a future [software] release soon.
Paint me VERY skeptical (but also hopeful) that this is just a software issue that they somehow never found during their development and alpha testing over many months. I am thinking it may be EMI or a hardware issue with the “ Powerful “anti-skip,” closed loop stepper motors ”.
If anyone finds the root cause to this, I can’t wait to hear it.
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