# Trusted shielded 16/3 and 16/4 suppliers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Spindle/VFD (Aftermarket/Unsupported)\ **Created:** [April 4, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/trusted-shielded-16-3-and-16-4-suppliers/12251 "2022-04-04T20:20:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 22
**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/trusted-shielded-16-3-and-16-4-suppliers/12251/22 "2023-11-13T16:21:45Z")
Hey Jeff, [my spindle](https://www.spindel-shop.de/en/High-Frequency-Spindle-standard-Series/High-Frequency-Spindle-HFS-series/Water-Cooled-HF-Spindles--HF-Spindle--HF-Spindles--HF-Spindle--HF-Spindles--Motorspindle--Milling-Spindle--Grinding-Spindle-4.html) ([Datasheet)](https://www.mechatron-gmbh.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Datenblatt_HFS-8022-24-ER20.pdf) has a [Phoenix M17 connector](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/where-to-get-spindle-cable/20099/14), and I bought what I need to make the cable myself. > [@349iq2345](#): > > ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/8/d/8d17a7917e795a89f43842d1d948680344d7e3e8.jpeg) > > ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/b/9/b919cd9838bf68a3f20c60651deff493a9e59f69.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/5/5/55383574fd4bbd6ff742aa6c8f17b2c57382d48c.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/d/1/d1e1771104aa335f28331977c4a547653d233da4.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/6/8/68462ec95da2b07f1ac438ec2f44bfb7c1344ecb.jpeg) > [Phoenix #1624537 – ST-3ES1N8A8005 - Cable connector](https://www.phoenixcontact.com/en-us/products/circular-connector-cable-side-st-3es1n8a8005-1624537) > > This connector is assembled this way: > > ![Phoenix_M17_Connector_Assembling](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/8/f/8ffd40ff446e607c24b5c1bff73c7d54abe51642.jpeg) > > – Source: [M17 Cable connector - ST-3ES1N8A8005 > 1624537 → Downloads → package slip ](https://www.phoenixcontact.com/en-us/products/circular-connector-cable-side-st-3es1n8a8005-1624537) > > You need a four-mandrel crimp pliers for turned contacts with its [crimp locator](https://www.phoenixcontact.com/en-us/products/crimping-tool-sf-z0053-1615584) set to the correct depth for the matching contact. > [@80mm upgrade cable question](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/80mm-upgrade-cable-question/10209/7): > > Just the recommended crimp pliers for them, [SF-Z0025](https://www.phoenixcontact.com/online/portal/us/?uri=pxc-oc-itemdetail:pid=1607452&library=usen&pcck=P&tab=1&selectedCategory=ALL) and [SF-Z0054](https://www.phoenixcontact.com/online/portal/us/?uri=pxc-oc-itemdetail:pid=1615585&library=usen&pcck=P&tab=1&selectedCategory=ALL) are _a little pricey_, but what do you expect from crimping pliers that have a computer and a display in it. Happily our good old and world-renowned pliers manufacturer [Knipex](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knipex), pliers manufacturer since 1882, offers [crimp pliers for turned contacts](https://www.knipex.com/search?keys=turned) too, so I am happy to use the good old [Knipex 975264](https://www.knipex.com/products/crimping-pliers/four-mandrel-crimping-pliers-for-turned-contacts/four-mandrel-crimping-pliers-turned-contacts/975264) (or [no more in production, use 975263 instead](https://www.knipex.com/products/crimping-pliers/four-mandrel-crimping-pliers-for-turned-contacts/four-mandrel-crimping-pliers-turned-contacts/975263)) > [@349iq2345](#): > > Note that the gold-plated, turned contacts are to order separately in the version matching to your wire strength. > > ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/2/3/23bf710eb1f621d641f09fba2aba5f6fb0fdaae1.jpeg) > [Phoenix #1607658 – ST-20KS020 - Turned crimp contact (version for 1…2.5 mm² wire](https://www.phoenixcontact.com/en-us/products/crimp-contact-st-20ks020-1607658) If you are able to remove the back cover of the spindle, [![Still a bit unclear on proper spindle grounding-ground-wire-2-jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/1/a/1af5148fe6879b8c6f3fef297fc6e22b745ae059.jpeg "Still a bit unclear on proper spindle grounding-ground-wire-2-jpg")](https://www.cnczone.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=385868&d=1517859014&s=7af5aa93bc6c72280a107095fed5b2cc) – Source: [Still a bit unclear on proper spindle grounding – cnczone.com](https://www.cnczone.com/forums/spindles-vfd/354362-still-bit-unclear-proper-spindle-grounding.html) you could replace the connector and use the serious industry-grade Phoenix M17 Motor Power connector that my spindle uses. The matching connector on the spindle would be [this one](https://www.phoenixcontact.com/online/portal/us/?uri=pxc-oc-itemdetail:pid=1628924&library=usen&pcck=P-20-07-06-03&tab=1&selectedCategory=ALL) or [this one](https://www.phoenixcontact.com/online/portal/us/?uri=pxc-oc-itemdetail:pid=1628519&library=usen&pcck=P-20-07-06-03&tab=1&selectedCategory=ALL) for device side: > [@349iq2345](#): > > Here is the socket found on my spindle: > > ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/7/e/7e6e598ad1832296d25ee3af1186e154f0b1920d.jpeg) > [Phoenix #1628924 – M17-3EP1N8AW500S](https://www.phoenixcontact.com/en-us/products/circular-connectors-device-side-m17-3ep1n8aw500s-1628924) > > See → [this thread](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/80mm-upgrade-cable-question/10209/7) for more information. > [@349iq2345](#): > > Its manufacturer web page number is mentioned [in this posting](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/80mm-upgrade-cable-question/10209/9). Here the matching contact: (to order separately) > > ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/d/4/d4d01f0f13c7e436c1c76436af9eab17220754e0.jpeg) > > ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/b/c/bcd01360581cf7a75834ef7dfa39a21d48e02bdd.jpeg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/a/e/ae5e98ebc42a6f35ba4b7fd0787590fccb080fe4.jpeg) > [Phoenix #1607656 – ST-20KP020 - Crimp contact](https://www.phoenixcontact.com/en-us/products/crimp-contact-st-20kp020-1607656) What I describe here would allow you to 1. make your spindle cable yourself 2. avoid any soldering, as it is crimped 3. avoid “aviation” connectors that cannot cope with the needed thicker spindle power cables #### Further Reading - [80mm upgrade cable question – Post #21 by Aiph5u](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/80mm-upgrade-cable-question/10209/7) - [Where to get Spindle Cable – Post #1 by Aiph5u](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/where-to-get-spindle-cable/20099) --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/trusted-shielded-16-3-and-16-4-suppliers/12251)._