# Upgrading stepper motor for 80mm Spindle

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**Created:** [July 16, 2021, 4:26am UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/upgrading-stepper-motor-for-80mm-spindle/6717 "2021-07-16T04:26:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Dustydave](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/dustydave/32/1776_2.png) [@Dustydave](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Dustydave)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/upgrading-stepper-motor-for-80mm-spindle/6717/61 "2021-12-06T20:22:03Z")

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Carmen,  
I am having the same issue, must be I over tightened when I first set it up.

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**Author:** ![Chefjuke](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/chefjuke/32/3925_2.png) [@Chefjuke](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Chefjuke)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 3:34am UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/upgrading-stepper-motor-for-80mm-spindle/6717/62 "2021-12-07T03:34:24Z")

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Used a drill slightly smaller than the set screw. Drilled hole through and once it got through I was able to use a screw extractor and/or slightly larger screwdriver to spin the remaining pieces of the set screw out.

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**Author:** ![349iq2345](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/bb73d2/32.png) [@349iq2345](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/349iq2345)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/upgrading-stepper-motor-for-80mm-spindle/6717/63 "2022-01-20T21:26:26Z")

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Hey Mike,

> [@Bumpski](#):
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> Making a sign with a patch that had very small words in the middle of it. With the makita I could read it easily and with the larger spindle I can not really make out the words. On the entire job this was the only issue I had. Overall it was much smoother and quieter but I would like to figure out what is causing this.

if you really loose detail after having switched from the trim router to a spindle (which mostly have less than 5 µm runout and are able to hold their speed strictly, regardless of load (what a trim router is not able to), after thinking about it for a while, I came to the thought, is it possible that you made a mistake when mounting the collet?

ER collets are not mounted the way a trim router collet is mounted. Most people put the collet into the axle of the spindle and then they put the collet nut over it. **That is definetely wrong!** An ER collet has a groove that goes all the way around near the top of the collet. The corresponding **collet nut** of an ER collet has an excentric extractor ring or offset lip inside. It is absolutely mandatory to fully engage (clip in) the collet inside the nut **before** you tighten it onto the holder, as shown at [this moment of the video “ER Collets | 5 Things to Know for Beginners”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0tJorTM0BE&t=153s). See also this picture from my spindle manual:

 ![Mechatron__Installing_Collet_into_Nut](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/6/1/61594bd2483e75da373dc60176160f9ec009bc77.png)  
– Source: Mechatron HFS Spindle User’s Manual

[![ER_collet__Excentric_Extractor_Ring_-Offset_Lip-_SS_Workshop](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/2X/a/ac7f0864fd297dd32b88c7c2c94cff54c6033045.jpeg)  
ER Collets | 5 Things to Know for Beginners - Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0tJorTM0BE&t=153s)

[![ER_collet_Excentric_Extractor_Ring_-Offset_Lip-_Haas_Automation](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/f/6/f6c2544e0ea9ad9586d32abb4c0a70c396b01b6f.png)  
ER Collet Essentials. Do You Know? – Haas Automation Tip of the Day - Youtube](https://youtu.be/WKikm6cQKh0?t=778)

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**Author:** ![Alphonse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/alphonse/32/3408_2.png) [@Alphonse](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Alphonse)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/upgrading-stepper-motor-for-80mm-spindle/6717/64 "2022-01-24T15:13:53Z")

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Great advice on mounting ER collets. This is something that can be easily missed and cause a mess.

If you make this mistake on a metal working machine (metal lathe or mill), you will find out pretty quick that you’ve made a mess. Ask me how I know!

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**Author:** ![TMToronto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ea924/32.png) [@TMToronto](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/TMToronto)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/upgrading-stepper-motor-for-80mm-spindle/6717/65 "2022-01-24T18:31:25Z")

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I had found this video interesting wrt tool holders, collets, and collet nuts…  
[Haas Automation Tip of the Day](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKikm6cQKh0)  
They have great information in general on a variety of topics, metal focused, however often applicable.

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**Author:** ![AndyP](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/andyp/32/1106_2.png) [@AndyP](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/AndyP)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/upgrading-stepper-motor-for-80mm-spindle/6717/66 "2022-01-24T22:44:09Z")

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In a geeky sort of way quite fascinating (although I’ll never admit that to the family)

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**Author:** ![CraigA4141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CraigA4141](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/CraigA4141)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/upgrading-stepper-motor-for-80mm-spindle/6717/67 "2022-02-04T18:11:48Z")

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Just converted to the 80mm base. The two set screws came right out. Received my JW50 in early December 2021

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**Author:** ![antoniasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@antoniasa](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/antoniasa)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/upgrading-stepper-motor-for-80mm-spindle/6717/69 "2023-07-28T16:50:55Z")

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I think also here that Bosch Rexroth is highly configurable and will give you a great deal. You may check these [Bosch Rexroth In-Stock Now](https://servosupplier.com/products/dkc03-3-040-7-fw?_pos=1&_sid=5911cea5d&_ss=r) from servosupplier.

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