# What do you do about smoke and fumes from Laser? **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [January 7, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139 "2022-01-07T17:46:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DrSys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5daacb/32.png) [@DrSys](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/DrSys)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/1 "2022-01-07T17:46:04Z")
I recently got the Jtech Pro Laser and set it up. After running it for about 20 minutes, my garage was full of smoke. - I was using plywood. Are there any particular types of wood (or other material) that does not produce much fumes? - Can you share what kind of setup you are using for ventilation or exhausting fumes? ---
**Author:** ![Kanova802](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/kanova802/32/1128_2.png) [@Kanova802](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Kanova802)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/2 "2022-01-07T20:36:16Z")
I have the same issue with making larger and larger laser projects. When it was warm out I would just open the garage door and have a box fan moving fresh air. Now that it is colder outside in upstate NY, 11°F this morning, this is not an option. I have some parts being delivered today to build a fume extractor which will cut down on the smoke and smell. This will only be used for wood and not be used for plastics or other stuff that will give off toxic fumes as I am not planning to vent it outside. However it will have an activated charcoal filter. Once I am finished I will post the project in the forum if it ends up working. I will probably do the same if it does not to show what didn’t work for me… that’s how we all learn together -Kyle ---
**Author:** ![Dustoff00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Dustoff00](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Dustoff00)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/3 "2022-01-07T21:15:45Z")
I have don the same as Kyle, jsut opened by garage door and two shop fans sucking it out and a small table fan blowing on the surface. I plan on installing an extractor port/similar to ductwork for dryer to the out side and then using some left over computer fans to move the air and place it near the project work… ---
**Author:** ![DrSys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5daacb/32.png) [@DrSys](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/DrSys)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/4 "2022-01-07T21:47:09Z")
Thanks Kyle and Dean I am thinking of using an exhaust fan like this: > **[Amazon.com: VIVOSUN Ventilation Kit 4 Inch 190 CFM Inline Duct Fan with 4"x 14"...](https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Control-Australia-Charcoal/dp/B07B3RNW35?tag=benmyers-20)** > > Amazon.com: VIVOSUN Ventilation Kit 4 Inch 190 CFM Inline Duct Fan with 4"x 14" Carbon Filter Odor Control System with Australia Virgin Charcoal for Grow Tent Ventilation : Industrial & Scientific Is this the right type of ventilation to use? ---
**Author:** ![Kanova802](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/kanova802/32/1128_2.png) [@Kanova802](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Kanova802)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/5 "2022-01-07T21:54:26Z")
@DrSys I was looking at that one and decided to go with this instead as it uses an EC motor and appears to be better built. I also got the AC Infinity hose and charcoal filter to get rid of the smoke smell and any possible carcinogens which may be in the smoke. I plan to use a pre-filter as well to grab the bulk of the smoke and extend the life of the carbon filter. > **[Amazon.com: Spider Farmer 4 Inch Inline Duct Fan with Speed Controller, 205 CFM...](https://www.amazon.com/SPIDER-Controller-Ventilation-Exhaust-Hydroponics/dp/B08S7C2HH4?tag=benmyers-20)** > > Amazon.com: Spider Farmer 4 Inch Inline Duct Fan with Speed Controller, 205 CFM EC Motor Quiet Ventilation Exhaust Fan for Heating Cooling Booster, Grow Tents, Hydroponics : Patio, Lawn & Garden ---
**Author:** ![Dustoff00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Dustoff00](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Dustoff00)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/6 "2022-01-07T22:08:47Z")
No fair Kyle, you have just cost me more money… LOL… Sitting in my amazon wish list for purchase once I complete my updates to Journeyman layout and 80mm Spindle in the next 3-4 weeks… ---
**Author:** ![DrSys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5daacb/32.png) [@DrSys](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/DrSys)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:16pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/7 "2022-01-07T22:16:17Z")
Thanks Kyle I added this to my Amazon wish list too 🙂 Please let us know how your setup works when you receive the parts ---
**Author:** ![Kanova802](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/kanova802/32/1128_2.png) [@Kanova802](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Kanova802)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/8 "2022-01-07T22:19:10Z")
Hahahaha… let me get it together first and see how it does. It did just arrive and I unboxed it to test. It does have pretty good suction by itself. will be curious what it has trying to blow through the carbon filter. Will probably need to make a mount to get the hose attached to the gantry and dust boot type device to get the suction as close to the laser a possible. -Kyle ---
**Author:** ![Kanova802](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/kanova802/32/1128_2.png) [@Kanova802](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Kanova802)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/9 "2022-01-08T22:30:03Z")
It isn’t 100%, but it’s getting 98% of the smoke. Now to design a 3d printed fume boot which will clip into the Suck It mounting brackets 🤔 [https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/9/2/92c4e8d9988e190f334b82368bd5d5ad1ae03b1b.mp4](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/9/2/92c4e8d9988e190f334b82368bd5d5ad1ae03b1b.mp4) ![20220108_172412](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/6/e/6ef15600b63a16302e623370f44ab4721ba9b3ef.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DrSys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5daacb/32.png) [@DrSys](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/DrSys)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/10 "2022-01-08T22:45:56Z")
Nice 👍 Thanks for sharing. I see that you are not venting to the outside. Was the carbon filter alone able to eliminate 98% of the smells? ---
**Author:** ![Kanova802](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/kanova802/32/1128_2.png) [@Kanova802](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Kanova802)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 11:12pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/11 "2022-01-08T23:12:43Z")
Your welcome. Hard be be 100% sure of the filters ability to get rid of all the smell at this point because I’m doing 1h 35m engrave on a cutting board and have had to switch hands holding the hose a couple times and with the hose not being down by the surface, there has been some smoke not getting sucked up. But I’m 45 minutes in and I haven’t had to open a door yet, so I consider it a viable proof of concept and a huge improvement over nothing. I feel having a dust boot style end will make a huge improvement. Fume extraction is tricky and is only effective a couple inches away from the end of the hose. The closer the better. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/858c86/32.png) [@Jeff62](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Jeff62)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/12 "2022-01-11T03:20:03Z")
I use this fan and it is great. Quite quiet. I also originally used the same filter. However after a couple of months of use, it did not trap the odor well anymore. I was venting inside at that point. Once the filter started to not work as well and since I only work on wood and not plastics, I eliminated the filter and now vent outside. ---
**Author:** ![Kanova802](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/kanova802/32/1128_2.png) [@Kanova802](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Kanova802)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/13 "2022-01-11T13:54:40Z")
@Jeff62 - I figured the filter would have a life span of a couple months depending on usage. I believe replacements are anywhere from $30-$50 depending on brand. Was planning on just figuring that in as shop cost on any future laser projects as I do not have any good means to vent outside as of yet. What do you have for a way to attach the hose to the gantry/z-axis and an end to get the suction close to the laser? -Kyle ---
**Author:** ![Jeff62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/858c86/32.png) [@Jeff62](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Jeff62)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/14 "2022-01-12T02:36:40Z")
I actually use my regular vacuum hose and the hose holder from Rowdy Roman, which I just slide up about 2" above the laser. Turn the fan on and there is plenty of suction. ---
**Author:** ![Off-kilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@Off-kilter](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Off-kilter)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/15 "2022-06-26T15:42:12Z")
I just finished building my CNC enclosure and incorporated an old 10" in-line duct fan into the top capped with a piece of plywood with an adapter for 4" flexible duct leading outside my shop. My first test of it was confusing as I seemed to be getting air pulled into the enclosure but I worked out that what was happening was the fan was blowing air onto the bottom of the adapter panel and bouncing back, making an air torus. The fan still draws but the efficiency is way down. Now I read that best extraction is from inches away. Am I going to have to totally rethink this? Still have a few days to go before I mount the machine and laser in the cabinet and start doing tests. ---
**Author:** ![WaywardWoodworker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e79b87/32.png) [@WaywardWoodworker](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/WaywardWoodworker)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/16 "2022-06-26T16:00:50Z")
Keep in mind you need “make up” air for the fan to work. If your enclosure is too tight it can’t draw in air and renders the fan ineffective. This can also be true of the workshop as well, if the envelope is too tight it will try to find make up air from anywhere it can which can include back drafting down a chimney for example. A 10" fan will typically move a lot of air. Way back in my past I worked on a movie 24 movie theater building where the engineers designed the amount of make up air to push fresh air into the building (300 people in a closed room)… it was so much air that the doors which swung outwards would not close fully. ---
**Author:** ![Off-kilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@Off-kilter](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Off-kilter)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 2:45am UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/17 "2022-06-27T02:45:00Z")
I think what I’m going to do is just go for it as is and not get my knickers in a knot until the system proves insufficient. I hadn’t considered makeup air but I’m not making the enclosure too tight and worrying about air flow in my laughably drafty 100 year old garage would resemble sticking your finger in a file. Thank you for pointing it out though, so many things to consider. ---
**Author:** ![makermatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5ac83/32.png) [@makermatt](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/makermatt)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/18 "2023-01-06T03:03:12Z")
did you ever make a suckit vac hose bracket? If so would you mind sharing or post a photo of what you created? ---
**Author:** ![Kanova802](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.onefinitycnc.com/kanova802/32/1128_2.png) [@Kanova802](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/Kanova802)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/19 "2023-01-06T16:34:06Z")
Thank you for asking. I did make a cardboard prototype which mounted in the Suck-It arms and went under the Z-Axis with a 4" duct outlet going up the back of the gantry, however I gave up after realizing the smoke would plug up the charcoal scrubber filter after about 2 hours of laser use (I was doing some large personalized cutting boards). I did not have a good location to vent to the outside in the location where my 1F was and was planning on adding a CO2 laser to the shop soon anyways, so I just went forward with that and vented it outside where it was. With the addition of the new higher wattage JTech diode lasers, I bet there is even more of a need for something like this. Maybe I should dust off the old design and finish it up… -Kyle ---
**Author:** ![makermatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5ac83/32.png) [@makermatt](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/u/makermatt)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139/20 "2023-01-06T23:52:58Z")
@Kanova802 I ended up making a clip that attaches to the front of the laser mounting bracket for a 2.5" hose that goes to my Fein Turbo vac. Works great. Here is a rendering of it. Super simple, works with the existing holes and hardware that comes with the JTech. ![Screen Shot 2023-01-06 at 3.51.58 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/onefinitycnc/original/3X/a/c/acdfb87873c65e73f07d6d3cc0fe3586812642de.png) [Next page](https://forum.onefinitycnc.com/t/what-do-you-do-about-smoke-and-fumes-from-laser/10139.md?page=2)