Solidworks canned cycles and Buildbotics controller issues

Machines (Original/PRO) Controller (Buildbotics) Discussion
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I have reached out to both Onefinity and BuildBotics with no luck to my issue. This machine is central to my business that I’m trying to get off the ground.

Onefinity emailed back to say - “Buildbotics is limited and does not support canned cycles nor tool changes in one file.” ”I’m sorry but it’s not a software (SolidWorks 2025 Standard) we support so our assistance I extremely limited.”

Buildbotics emailed back to say - “We don’t make controllers for OneFinity and never have. They copied our Open-Source design and proceeded to make the controllers themselves. Unless you purchased your controller from us, you will have to go back to 1F for support.”

Hopefully someone here can help out. Please see the description below of my issue. Also, as a new user I am not allowed to attach anything so the .nc code is pasted below.

I am using Solidworks 2025 standard, and the CAM that comes with it. I am using the post processor from github (im trying to not spend $1500 from Go Engineer to create a post and just deal with what came from github) If someone has a less expensive but fully verified post processor solution i am all ears!

First, I had issues with G80 and G81 with a patterns program i am using, so thats why there are a few lines that are blank. I have 4 sets of 9 holes to drill then counter sink, and after the first set of holes it was skipping the first hole of the next sets, so since I had all the locations in the code I just removed the remaining G80 and G81 so it would just do one canned cycle.

Back to the main problem, I think the main issues has to do with a modal reset after the canned drilling cycle, even though there is a G80 at the end of the drilling cycle and then it runs the probe macro when it sees M6, its like there is something stuck with a Z height. The specific crash movements are

  1. Display prompt for probe for next tool
  2. I then put the magnet on the metal part of the spindle just above the black oxide nut so i have better continuity
  3. I then tap the probe block to the tip of the new tool to see the display background go green to verify continuity
  4. I then place the block flat on the work piece
  5. I then press continue
  6. The probe moves slowly towards the probe block
  7. Tool touches probe block and pauses for a sec as it has seen continuity
  8. Z axis rapid moved up about 1mm before then immediately rapiding down into the block
  9. Enough pressure is on the block that i cant remove it and i now have an expensive tool putting pressure on the probe block, creating a divot, and i have to stop the program and start over. Very luckily i have not broken a tool, yet.
  10. I have been splitting the program up into one tool programs in the mean time, but i have a couple of programs with a ton of tools that this would become annoying if i have to split this up for all future programs.
  • This crash doesn’t happen every time though, only about a third of the time, the rest of the time the program runs great. And its never had an issue with running any canned drilling cycle program.

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(3.0mm Plastic Drill)
N0002 M05 (Stop Spindle)
G0 Z20
G0 X200 Y40
N0003 T02 M06
N0004 S6500 M03
N0005 M08
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I had a very similar problem with canned-cycle G-code output from Fusion 360. See my notes below for the workaround that I eventually came up with. I’m not sure if it’s exactly the solution that you need, but with some minor manual editing of the G-code files, it solved a particular Fusion compatibility problem with Onefinity’s “BB” controller.

Unfortunately, that was far from the only pain point I experienced with my original BB controller. The ultimate solution for me was to purchase the “Elite” upgrade with a Masso controller. My blood pressure is much better now. :wink:

Execution errors of Fusion 360 G-code

Symptom

Toolpaths appear to be correct in Fusion 360 simulation. But on the Onefinity/Buildbotics controller, rapid traverses to the next operation are executed at the Retract Height, not the Clearance Height. This can easily cause tool crashes. The corrupted motion can be seen on the Buildbotics control screen if, and only if, the toolpath preview is carefully inspected via an external web browser.

Cause

Fusion 360 uses a G81 (drilling cycle) to implement multi-point drilling operations. But Fusion’s G-code is relying on an unsupported by Buildbotics G98 (Canned Cycle Return Level) command to achieve the correct Z-retract behavior.

Workaround

Search all new G-code programs for “G80” (Cancel Canned Cycle) commands. Patch the G-code by inserting a G0 (Rapid) command in front of the Z coordinate following each G80 command.

Example code:

  • Before patching
    • N85 G80
    • N90 Z2.4
  • After patching
    • N85 G80
    • N90 G0 Z2.4
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That seems to be a Fusion Post-processor issue rather than a Buildbotics problem. Why not just fix the F360 Post-processor for the 1F and then you wouldn’t need to edit every g-code file? Once & done.

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First, thank you all for the quick replies and ideas. Im thinking I’ll have to open my UPG-2 post processor editior and edit drilling to a G01 move as you are suggesting. But at the least, I can manually edit as a solution.

Second, why did my title of this thread change and I can’t change it? I’m specifically having issues with SolidWorks, and the title now says Fusion.

Does anyone have a path for someone to professionally build a post processor for less then GoEngineers $1,500, mine is off of git hub and it’s pretty good. But it would be nice to be able to just trust the post explicitly.

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It would be great if a fully-compatible Fusion post-processor for the BB controller were available. But I’m definitely not the guy to take that mod on. The last significant coding I did was robot-control stuff back in the 1980’s, in Pascal. When I first found the smoking gun, I did take a look at the Onefinity community post that I was using, but I couldn’t even begin to understand it.

Given the relatively small number of 1F owners who use Fusion, I can understand why perfecting a post processor may not be a priority for either Onefinity or Autodesk. But what struck me as extremely sloppy programming was that the BB controller “accepted” the G98 command, and then simply ignored it instead of throwing an error code. It seems to me that the reasonable controller-software action for unsupported codes would be to halt execution (or never start it in the first place after simulation), and pop up an error message on the screen. That would have saved me a ruined workpiece or two, and hours if not days of debugging.

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Interesting. I wasn’t aware of any list of software from Onefinity that they officially support, or not. Considering that Solidworks is one of the most (if not THE most) widely used CAD/CAM package, it’s a real black mark if they’re saying it can’t be used with their products.

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Someone (with advanced Discourse rights) must have edited the title. But it looks like it was re-edited and corrected now. Although the comments now are a bit confusing as a lot of them refer to Fusion :smiley:

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So I finally had a chance to dive into my post processor editor (UPG-2) and I have mostly fixed it. Here is now what I created under my Drill Cycle

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One of the issues is that it creates code that rapids over to the next X,Y location, then rapids up to Z25 from Z5, then back down to Z5, then feed drills. (See .nc code same below) I tried to make the fourth block modal without the ! in the OPR_Z_CLEARANCE, but then what happened was it would feed down to the desired drill depth, then move to the next X,Y without retracting, yikes. So at this point I can just deal with it, or manually delete it.

Additionally, I believe Onefinity is only working with CAM companies that most people buying the machine will be using it for. Too bad about more people not using SolidWorks to have more knowledge base.

One more thought, the original buildbotics does support canned cycles no problem and everything else I need. The only reason I can think why 1F decided to strip out canned cycles is to make a lesser version as an option, and then dangle the Masso carrot. Too bad there wasn’t more transparency about the true performance before I spent my money, and most importantly time. Had I known after the tons of emails explaining what I was doing before I bought the machine I might have upgraded on the first round, but now I’m contemplating moving over to the original buildbotics since its only $700 and immediately available, and to go to Masso is $1800 plus the long lead time. I’ve got to get this business going, I absolutely cannot wait on their current lead time. And while 1F has been pretty good about responding, I got full transparency about performance and tested programs before I even bought it from the original buildbotics.

Ill see how good or bad the current machine handles the 2.5D programming I have coming up to make the final decision. So far, if this is the only issue then I’ll probably keep it until I upgrade to a ShopSabre as my business grows.

N0001 G90 G54 G17 G21 G40 G80 G94
(3.0mm Plastic Drill)
N0002 M05 (Stop Spindle)
N0003 T02 M06
N0004 S6500 M03
N0005 M08
N0006 G04 P05
N0007 G00 X201.341 Y87.2838
N0008 Z25.
N0009 Z5.
N0010 G01 Z-5.5981 F6600.
N0011 G00 Z5.
N0012 X176.3992 Y39.935
N0013 Z25.
N0014 Z5.
N0015 G01 Z-5.5981 F6600.
N0016 G00 Z5.
N0017 X185.0603 Y13.0107
N0018 Z25.
N0019 Z5.

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The OF buildbotics controller firmware is based on an old version of buildbotics. It’s probably just something that has improved over time in the buildbotics project.

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