Chatter along x axis

I noticed something this week. Was curious if anyone noticed anything similar. I seem to get chatter way way more easily if my spindle is moving along the x axis.

As background, have an original x50 journeyman with a stiffy and a z20. Currently as stated with a 1.5kw water cooled 80mm spindle. My table is a 5” thick torsion top so it should be reasonably stiff.

I just upgraded to an 80mm 1.5kw water cooled spindle. Cutting some mdf and decided to try a 1/2 inch endmill. I left the feeds and speeds at the manufacturer’s recommendation. The machine cut like butter when moving along the y axis. Even at 360ipm 1/2” doc. I was amazed. As soon as it changed direction and moved along the x axis it chartered the whole way. The second it switched back to traveling along the y axis….silky smooth without chatter.

Couple days later I noticed the same thing with a 1/4 inch compression endmill cutting 0.25 inch doc at 180ipm in mdf. Chatter on the x nothing along the y. Thinking back on this behavior I think I’ve had this for some time and just never out it together.

Am I the only one with this behavior? Is this the “it’s just a hobby machine” rigidity limit?

Mike

The only time I’ve noticed the effect of what appeared to be chatter was when I found Z was not perpendicular. After resetting that all was fine.

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Interesting. I haven’t tried tram in in a bit. Guess I can look into that. Ty for the suggestion.

Nope. Not that. Spindle is only like 0.002-0.003 out in either direction.

I’m curious, had you noticed any “chatter” prior to converting to a spindle?
If not, at least one element associated with that revision would seem to be the culprit.

Yes. But I just chalked it up to machine rigidity. But now I’m wondering since it’s only in one direction. Plus my feeds and speeds aren’t that aggressive. I feel like this machine should be capable of more.

Maybe I’m delusional. Haha

So after working with support for a few days, turns out I have a bad motor in my X axis. All this time I just thought my machine was a “hobby“ machine or my table wasn’t rigid enough or something. I’m excited to actually see what the machine can do for real.

I do want to give a shout out to support. I didn’t even realize I had a problem like this and they worked very patiently with me through the whole thing taking my complaint seriously. Thank you guys.

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It is good to hear support came through and a resolution is on the way. Did they indicate any specifics about what the motor’s malfunction? It might be helpful for others who have machines beyond warranty.

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No, they just had me remove the motor and check the movement with it sitting on the bench. I jogged it 5 in left and right using the touch screen. On the +x it was smooth. On the -x it would catch and briefly stop at the end of the movement. The was a rough vibration to the touch as well. It was pretty obvious when I saw it. I did have to play with the motor a few times to find it. It didn’t do it every time I jogged it. I guess it’s good to test multiple times to be sure.

I thought it was weird that it showed a chatter. I wouldn’t have guessed chatter was a bad motor. But it’s only along the x axis which struck me as weird.

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