The Elite Series with @Redlinecnc Controller
Hello can anyone provide some info if the elite journeyman has any rigidity issues ? Does the spindle tip flex a lot like shown on videos on YouTube ? I will be facing somE aluminum here and there so I want to make sure it will fit my needs
Can you describe the parts you are planning to face (i.e., surface area) as well as the tooling you plan to use? Do you have any experience machining aluminum on CNCs in this class?
No experience just want to confirm the rigidity of the spindle to see if it has a lot of deflection
my friend has the altmill and it is super rigid, I am leaning more towards the elite series so i don’t have to build a rolling stand which. I like the redline setup and the fold up stand. I just can’t find any details on the deflection to the spindle
I routinely cut aluminum with my Elite Foreman w/ stiffy bar and get great results. The videos with the flex would lead you to believe it wouldn’t be possible, but I think they are a bit misleading.
I’m sure the accuracy and material removal rates isn’t as high as purpose built industrial machines, but the accuracy and finish of the parts I create are still excellent.
I use high quality cutters up to 0.25”. Adding a mist coolant greatly helps surface finish and cut quality.
Do you do your own post machining press brake work or send it out to be done?
Bending is done in-house.
I recently moved the press from the garage to the basement, where I can bend parts as they come off the machine.
Thank you if you can make parts like that then it should be fine
do you have the stiffy on it or no ?
Yes, I’ve had the stiffy on there since day 1.
I have a heavily modified Woodworker with ATC spindle and cut aluminum almost exclusively. From my experience, understanding the limitations of the machine and using appropriate tool paths and machining parameters are critical to achieving the best results in both part accuracy and finish.
If you go to 7:40 in the video this guy is easily able to flex the spindle. Does yours do this ?
Just checked my machine.
The video shows maybe 0.125” of movement. Mine moves maybe 0.040” (just looking by eye).
I think Ryan must be pushing pretty hard, and he has the carriage in the center of the X-axis, where as my machine is parked at X10 Y10. So maybe mine would flex that much in those circumstances as well.
I think TMToronto said it right, understanding the machine, and using smart toolpaths can produce high quality parts.
While there is a learning curve, it’s not that bad.
I also recommend Fusion vs other CAM software. While I haven’t used Vectric / V-carve, I would be suprised if they offered the same level of cutter control like Fusion does.
We cannot reproduce flex like what was shown in house. It may be that some bolts are loose and flex is happening because of that. Flex like that doesn’t exist in a properly setup machine. If you read the comments you’ll find users who own the Onefinity state theirs does not flex like the video shows.
Why doesn’t onefinity make a video showing that ? It’s honestly been my issue deciding between the two. Do you have an elite series setup in Newmarket ? I love close by so I can see it ? I’m pulling the trigger on the buy for Black Fridays deals
I am not trying to bash onefiny machine in any way.
Everything else I love about them and if I was just doing wood I wouldn’t care so much
I just want to know if it’s right for me and for some reason I can’t find anything on this subject except for that video.
Like I said I’m ready to pull the trigger on one i just don’t know why onefinity just shows people it’s rigid and issue solved.
Mikexyz
you are right i would need to adjust to my machine but if a slower cut rate is what i am loosing then i would just go with the other. It’s killing me i want to buy the onefinity but they wont prove it to me which is scaring me a little. A simple YouTube clears it all up
Hi, I was wondering if you were able to evaluate the item I sent you yet?
What did you send ? I did not receive anything sorry I’m new here
I’ve had the opportunity to run a 4x8 AXYZ 2 head machine a Tormach mill and a General CNC machine
The first two were capable of running pretty much any material the latter was good for wood signs
As I’ve said in other posts if you need a production machine then buy one
IMO Onefinity makes a top quality hobby machine and it’s accurate
One of my first projects to check for accuracy was this cube. I think it’s pretty accurate
I dont cut any metals so I haven’t noticed any issues but I can give you a video of my Elite with a stiffy. If I am centered and the z axis pretty much all the way down I get about 1/16” of flex
that message was for tm toronto
Hi Fab,
Just wanted to add my voice and hopefully reassure that the onefinity is an excellent choice. The video you are referring to, I can attest, is disingenuous. You can go back in his feed and find an earlier video where he gets the 1f, and he has nothing but praise for it, even commenting on its rigidity being good. A couple of things about this video: first, he makes it sound as if the altmill is made of steel; it is not —it is entirely made of aluminum. I double-checked that in case they changed in the last year; they have not. Also, in the 1f, these are 50mm tubes with 7mm sides; they are heavy, and you only see it for a second in the clip at 7:40. The tubes are not moving; the bracket you screw into them is moving, showing it’s not properly installed. To address your question, no, the 1f does not deflect like that, but you can achieve the type of work you want with either machine. In fact, if you are getting big deflection, your settings would probably be wrong, which happens when you’re new to CNC. Keep at it, you will learn quickly. One more thing to keep in mind is that after-sales support, 1f is amazing; their support team will work with you one-on-one to solve your CNC issues very fast. Hopefully, this helps relieve some doubt.
