Introducing myself

Hello all,
I’m a Seattle based violin maker just beginning to explore the world of CNC. I have received most of my Elite woodworker, just waiting on the redline spindle and vfd. I got the QCW stand, as it seemed like one of the easier approaches for leveling/coplanarity, and am excited to take my first steps in this very cool evolution in manufacturing.

I have been slowly learning Rhino on my own, and my goal is to be able to model the complex shapes of violin arching so that I can use the CNC to mill my plates close to finished and then finish the job with traditional hand tools (gouges, little planes, scrapers).

At this stage, I’m a total neophyte. I’m doing my best to learn about the tooling, feeds and speeds, and the like and I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed. I hope I won’t be too much of an annoyance asking questions here as I discover things that haven’t been covered before in a way that I can understand.

One thing I’m wanting to try is using my machine to make very smooth, tight joints. Traditionally, when preparing the wood for a spruce violin belly, we’d flatten the surface which will eventually glue to the ribs, then use a large bench plane to shoot the joint surfaces. Set very finely, we’ll take a few passes on each joint surface of the book matched plate billet until we can hold them together and see that they fit perfectly without gaps or twist. Some colleagues have really finely tuned power jointers which will do this job well enough to skip the hand plane step. One colleague I know uses his CNC with a jig to use it like a jointer, where he slides the wood across the jig in which the bit is spinning.

My thought is to have the wood held in a jig and have the CNC move along the joint surface, taking off say 0.1 mm with each pass.

My question is, for the smoothest, most perfect joint surface, is more flutes better? Or is there a point of diminishing returns?

Anyway, thanks to all of you for your kindness and wisdom!

There’s a ton of people on this forum that are experts in modelling, machining, and woodworking.
There are people getting close to mirror finishes in aluminum which means the machine is capable of high tolerance.
For me, I get within .005 on an inch which is fine for the woodworking projects I do.
I think you might want to consider getting a rotary if you want to get the most out of the machine especially for the neck of the violin.
Please use the search features on this forum. There’s mountains of information on speeds and feeds, personal experience with different types of bits and jigs.
I know I’ve learned alot in the short time I’ve been on this site.

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Welcome JMViolins… I think it would be cool if you document building a violin with the Onefinity once you get the process dialed in.

As for bits, I work with different hardwoods and depending on what I’m doing, I’ll switch bits on the fly if I don’t like what they’re doing. I’d recommend trying everything you can get your hands on and see what works best for you. There is no one-size-fits-all, there’s mostly just different. Sometimes wood doesn’t behave or play nice, even if it’s from the same tree, or even the same board. The lower part of a board can be denser and heavier (older growth), while the other end of the board is not as dense and lighter (new growth)…. And the higher up the tree you go, the more branches you get, and branches leave knots… and blah blah blah….

Feeds and speeds are going to be way more important to figure out (it just takes time, patience and practice to work that out), than the number of flutes the bit has. In your case, Spruce is a stringy wood so the bit has to be clean and sharp, but I don’t see why you can’t cut almost everything on the CNC. Just remember, smaller bits can go faster, and larger bits should go slower.

However, for the bookends, you know the edges are going to cup and expand as soon as you cut them and the pressure releases. That’s why the jointer is going to be your best friend for that. Some things just require the old school touch and tool set…. But what do I know?

Congrats on your new adventure!

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Thanks to both of you for your thoughts!