Masso controller or Redline controller?

Is the Redline controller interface easier to set up and run the ATC and rotary axis than Masso controller? Currently on QCW Forman Gen1. ( possible getting Gen 2). Have QCW ATC on frame now. Still trying to hone in the settings to work. I have the rotary wanting to use on QCW also but still in the box. Is the Redline controller true plug and play with these add accessories?

I have have a traditional ATC, and am familiar with the Easy ATC through having done research and speaking with RCATC, and in my opinion no ATC will be ‘Plug and Play’ in the usual meaning of that expression.

There are far too many software, and as it seems you are finding, hardware positions and parameters that need to be in place for the system to work correctly and repeatably.

I can only speak again from what I have read and researched, but one of the Redline controller’s unique features over the Masso is a focus on simplifying the user experience (as much as possible - see earlier opinion) by including helpful animations that break down processes into smaller guided steps. My feeling is that when the ATC logic is ready next year it will likely follow that pattern.

Hopefully you are reaching out for support with your ATC installation. There are many experienced users in the forums, as well of course as the RapidChange and Onefinity support staff who I am sure can help solve any issues you may be experiencing.

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Great question — and absolutely fair to ask. The Masso G3 is a very capable industrial controller, and if it’s working well for you, there’s zero pressure to change.

Different customers see the Redline upgrade differently, and that’s perfectly normal:
Some Masso users have been begging for Redline because the interface and workflow fit them better.
Some are skeptical, which makes total sense — it’s new, and there aren’t as many units out in the wild yet.
Some genuinely prefer Masso and view Redline as a downgrade for their workflow. And that’s completely fine.

We actually saw this exact mix of reactions when we introduced the Masso controller years ago, back when the Buildbotics controller was the only option. Some people jumped in immediately, some held off for months, and some stayed with BB because it fit their workflow better. Redline is following the same natural pattern.

The important thing is this: your Masso works perfectly and is a great controller. If it’s meeting your needs, there’s no reason you need to upgrade.

Where Redline differs is the experience. It was built from the ground up in conjunction with Onefinity to be hobby-CNC-focused, with the features customers have been asking for — and here are just a few, with many more built in and much more planned for the future:

  • – Joypad jogging (a much requested feature)
  • – 3D renders with machine overlay, rotary even displays in 3d!
  • – Feed override
  • – VFD spindle feedback and more advanced connection, the controller knows what the VFD is doing and reacts accordingly
  • – VFD torque realtime feedback
  • – Simple setup wizards for things like tool setters, probe, and ATC
  • – One touch tool number changes
  • – Enhanced wireless control
  • – Smarter Rotary, no need to change probing or axis configurations. Just plugin, load a file, and hit start.
  • – Jtech Laser built in with direct input from Jtech
  • – All metal casing
  • – Keyboard Support
  • – Mouse Support
  • – Smarter Alarms
  • – Built in Onefinity Machine Configurations (restore in seconds)
  • – One touch easy alarm clearing
  • – Webcam support (over wifi)
  • – Simple, Reactive, and Modern UI
  • – Macros
  • – Free firmware for life
  • – simple, worry free Firmware updates with a touch of one button (no usb or exact firmware file to download)
  • – No subscriptions or paywalled functions
  • – RapidChange ATC support built directly into the firmware (simple TX M6, no complex subroutines)
  • – Turn on/off 4 loads via I/O
  • – Breakout board for future expandability
  • – Opto isolated
  • – Larger Power supply (600w) built in
  • – Faster firmware updates. Updates and bug fixes in days, not years
  • – Easier and more affordable repairability
  • – No features locked behind paywalls
  • – North American tech support
  • – Closer integration with Onefinity and their specific needs
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Does the Redline controller also support “traditional” pneumatic ATCs, or just the Rapidchange ATC?

Just the rapidchange, at this time.

Traditional will come in 2026.

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Thanks, I’ll stay posted.

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Does it support original Rapidchange ATC (not the one specific to Onefinity?). I guess th only difference is pocket positions… configurable in Redline?