Page numbers in manual?

My Foreman Elite showed up today. I’m trying to print out the manual so I don’t have to be on the computer for information. It prints WITHOUT PAGE NUMBERS! Adobe wants me to spend $20/month to turn on the option to print page numbers. That’s ridiculous! I spend $5,000 plus for a machine and have to pay extra for a manual with page numbers? If that’s the case, this thing is going back!

Hey John,

no one really uses Adobe pdf readers. What about xpdf, evince or Sumatra (for windoze)?

You are blaming the Onefinity machine for your pdf reader???

Very interesting! I just pulled up the Eliite manual myself, and sure enough, the PDF itself doesn’t show page numbers.

I rarely print out manuals anymore, as I find it much more efficient to store them in the cloud and then pull them up on my iPad for portable viewing. (Or even a smartphone, in a pinch.). So I might have never noticed the missing page numbers. But I also noticed that the Table of Contents does not have live page links. With those, I can click on a line in the TOC, and jump immediately to the page of interest.

Assuming that the manual’s source document is in Word, it’s very easy to create PDF’s with both page numbers and a live table of contents. Hopefully @OnefinityCNC can soon publish a revised PDF with those features available.

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Adobe is the gold standard of PDF software. I have always used the free Adobe Reader when I download PDF manuals into print. It’s all I’ve ever used. I was just extremely frustrated that with all of the bells and whistles, I spent almost seven thousand dollars on a piece of equipment, only to find the manual sorely lacking in something as basic as putting page numbers in it! It makes absolutely NO sense to me. I fought with it for a long time until my wife (who is a graphic designer) came home and she has the full version of Adobe on her Mac. She downloaded the manual and had to edit the PDF to add page numbers! That is completely ridiculous!

I spend enough time on the computer as it is. I don’t want to be tied to my laptop to read the assembly and operating instructions. Why do they list page numbers in the index and not place them on the pages?

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Hey John,

yes, they could put page numbers into the manual.

But why pay money for a PDF reader if you can get one hundred other PDF reader softwares that are free and open software, and work as good? I never had the thought to pay money for pdf reading.

Hey John,

this sounds like a real apple user. Used to paying a lot of money for everything! :grinning:

I am a PC user for sure. My wife uses a Mac because she is a graphic designer. The issue here isn’t Adobe vs free apps. It’s why didn’t whoever wrote the manual insert the page numbers from the start? They aren’t on the pages and if you want them like I do, you have to screw around adding them. That is ridiculous.

One other thing is that when I started having trouble, I googled “free PDF readers” and saw a lot of them as you pointed out. I tried to download several of them, but every one of them was full of nothing but ads and looked very sketchy. I’m almost sure that downloading them would have introduced a lot of unwanted garbage to my computer. I did try one of them and ended up spending half of the install time denying access to a bunch of unwanted spam. There is something to be said for a quality, trusted, stable, and safe app.

Hey John,

There is a misunderstanding here: You have obviously confused “Free and Open Source Software” with “free software”. But that is a very big difference! I would never propagate Freeware! Free and Open Source Software is something completely different, and it is not always free. The difference is like between “free” in “free beer” and “free” as in “free speech”. You see the difference? Free and Open Source Software is software for which the rights to the code are subject to a Free License, i.e. you can both use it freely and you can view, edit and republish the source code. With Free and Open Source Software, everyone can always know and control exactly what it does on your computer. And it is not ad-supported, but a gift from the community, usually programmed by volunteer programmers. Freeware, on the other hand, is usually proprietary, closed source, ad-supported, and you never know what harmful things it will do to your computer. Also it is published without its source code which remains secret, and its reverse engineering is usually prohibited, it is released under a proprietary, restrictive, non-permissive license.

Therefore, I would NEVER advise you to install Freeware! In fact, you have no control over what it does to your computer, nor is it ad-free. I only promote Free and Open Source Software, which today represents such successful and powerful software packages as GIMP, Cinelerra, Ardour, Rosegarden, Inkscape, FreeCAD, Blender, LibreOffice, Librecalc, Firefox, Thunderbird, Claws-Mail, Chromium Browser, Audacity, Hydrogen, K3b, Handbrake, vlc, tuxguitar, LinuxSampler, Qsampler, Aeolus, GnuCash, Stellarium ← Excellent!, Fritzing, gEDA, pcb, Apache Cassandra, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, GParted, Scribus, Lyx, WINE, TEX, LATEX…

…what generally applies to free and open source software! This is because with Free and Open Source Software, every little error and even minor freature request is communicated to the community and usually taken care of, and made better the next version. I’m amazed what professional software I can use today without having to pay, and this is NOT Freeware that I’m talking of, I speak of Free and Open Source Software. I can only warn to install Freeware on your computer! You don’t know what is does. Always take care that your software has a free license and that its source code is open.

Onefinity Elite Series Owners Manual (05.09.2024).pdf (24.7 MB)

I’m hopeful that the Onefinity team will add page numbers to the manual—I have added page numbers to this version.

If it helps, I can add page numbers to other PDFs.

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That is very cool. Thank you very much!

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