Prob issue not sure what is going on

I am trying to do this carv the material is 48" wide by 24" Says its with the Y axes not sure what is going on so not sure how to fix. can someone plese give me some insite as to what these means?

Thanks

error Y axis position -1.394mm is less than minimum soft limit 0mm
While executing GCode block:G0 X0 Y0
At: :3
Caused by: Y axis position -1.394mm is less than minimum soft limit 0mm

error Y axis position -11.2mm is less than minimum soft limit 0mm
While executing GCode block:G0 X0 Y-0.5 Z0 A0
At: :4
Caused by: Y axis position -11.2mm is less than minimum soft limit 0mm

error Y axis position -1222.5mm is less than minimum soft limit 0mm
While executing GCode block:G38.6 Y[#<_y_home_travel>]
At: :5
Caused by: Y axis position -1222.5mm is less than minimum soft limit 0mm

error Y axis position -1.313mm is less than minimum soft limit 0mm
While executing GCode block:G0 X0 Y0
At: :3
Caused by: Y axis position -1.313mm is less than minimum soft limit 0mm

Iā€™m not sure itā€™s the caseā€¦but it sounds like you are working with the whole 24 inches of material, and maybe set your file to go outside the materials (like surfacing), and the machine canā€™t go to a negative value. Example is in surfacing, you design a file that is bigger than 24 inches length, and you have it going a small amount beyond the spoil board? Maybe if you upload your file, myself or others could help you troubleshoot it, upload the design file as well as the .ngc, if you would.

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Hey Troy,

if you create a 3D model that is exactly as big as the workarea, you got to make sure that your toolpath zero coordinate is zeroed / probed absolutely exactly on the corresponding position in real.

If you donā€™t, you tell the machine to mill outside the workarea which it must of course refuse (with the errors shown).

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thank you all for your response Im not sure how to upload the gcode here and all i will try in a bit. I set my project up 48x 24, thats my work peace but what I am carving is smaller. 42x19. I have my 48 x24 board laying right on the 0,0 axes to use the full 48" area. my zero for my carve is x 3.00in and y is 2.500in. If i zero my bit right on the corner i do not get that messages but if i use the 1f prob pad i do. I just want to be able to use the full 48 inches of area nothing more. I know it cant do a negitive carve.

aug 20 2023roughing (1).nc (153.1 KB)

wrote in easel if that helps thanks again.

Hey Troy,

I tried the g-code file you uploaded and it is not the cause of errors. So itā€™s the way you set your workpiece zero in real (probing) that there is something wrong with.

It is not clear what you mean exactly. Are you using the 3-axis touch plate the way it is described in this video?

By probing (or by manually setting zero), you always have to set the workpiece zero in real exactly there where the workpiece zero is in your 3D toolpath model. This must correspond. So if your workpiece zero is at X=3 and Y=2.5 of your real workpiece, then youā€™ll have to probe in a way that the zero is exactly there.

You can check where your workpiece zero is after probing by entering the following in the command input field of the MDI Tab:

G0X0Y0

The machine will move the bit where it thinks your workpiece zero is now. If it is not where you want, or where you think it should be, then you probed the wrong way.

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yes using the touch probe is how i do it. Thats what gets me the x is at3.00 so that will not match the touch prob block location.
Question, in my cnc settings it has the prob block width as 53.975 and the length at 53.975 both mm. is I am probing from the bottom left corner of my work piec should my x and y zero be set to match the block meassurments ?

Hey Troy,

if your machine is with default settings you should not have to worry about the touch probe dimensions, they are subtracted automatically.

But if you probe by using the touch plate on the top front left corner of your workpiece (as the plate is designed for), you got to have the workpiece zero coordinate in your 3D toolpath model there too. Probing (or manually setting zero) means: Ensuring that the zero in your 3D model and the zero coordinate in real do match.

X axis position -0.967mm is less than minimum soft limit 0mm
While executing GCode block:G0 X0 Y0
At: :3
Caused by: X axis position -0.967mm is less than minimum soft limit 0mm

this is the latest

ok so even though when i set the x and y to zero and it moves my carve off the board on easel it will still be right on the work peace and carve right, will not be outside the work area of my cnc?

PS: To delete your probing result prior to re-probing again, you can delete any previous probing results by entering:

G92.1

into the MDI.

hey i have a question, i converted the 53.975 to a fraction for using my tape to check. should be about 2 1/8 ok. well i put my prob block on my board at the bottom left corner where i always prob at at its eye balling any ways from the center of the circul on the prob to the edge of my board 1 3/4 thats not right is it?

Hey Troy,

as long as you get the limit errors, the machine tells you that it is not able to mill your toolpath because it tells him to mill outside its workarea. The crucial point is: Where did you probe your workpiece zero? The machine will take what ever you probed as the zero and treat it as the workpiece zero of your 3D model.

Hey Troy,

As I said above, you donā€™t have to care about the touch plate dimensions. They are stored in the settings and are always automatically substracted. When you use the touch plate as described in the video, then, as the result, the zero coordinate will be exactly on the top front left corner of the workpiece on which you positioned the touch plate.

Try to re-probe by first deleting old probing result with G92.1 and reprobe as shown in the video. Then if you move to G0X0Y0, the bit should be exactly over the top front left corner of your workpiece.

And then, if you hit play, the machine will consider this point as the workpiece zero of your 3D model and start to carve.

yeah i get that sir just find it odd though that the dimensions stored in the machine are not what the prob block measures is what i am not understanding. using that meassurement i will be almost an inch below my carving area.

Hey Troy,

if you doubt the measurements in the settings, there is this video:

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thank you, yeah that is what i was looking for but of course my batter is dead in my caliper lol. thanks a bunch you where loads of help greatly apreciate it.

I recommend dial calipers, still works after atomic impact :slight_smile:

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im sorry i tried what you recomend I do not know why i am not getting this. I look at my easel carve and its inside my work area. nothing is outside the work area. i have it set to probe at the bottom left corner and my carve area is inside my material size not outside what so ever. im stumped I have already done my roughing portion of my carve or i would try just manually setting my settings. im worried if i do that it will totally throw off my detail carve. I have always probed with the block the way it shows the only time i have an issue like this is when i try and use material that 48 in wide. I have my waist board dead center of my cnc at 24 in worked my way out in both directions from there. I move my cnc over to the bottom left corner to 0,0 and it is right on the corner of my material i drive straigt down with a small bit and it touches the corner of my board. i go to the right side and touch the corner and its the same right on the tip. my carve is 2.5 inches up from ther and the 3 inches from both sides so well with in my work area. I thought this thing could do a 48 x 32 working area.

Hey Troy,

As said above, when probing XYZ with the Onefinity 3-axis touch plate, you can only probe the Z of your workpiece zero on the top front left corner of your workpiece, not the bottom. If your 3D model has the Z workpiece zero on bottom, then you either have to change it to be on the top of your workpiece, or you got to probe Z axis separately, from the machine bed. In this case you use the touch plate upside down as shown in the video.

But when I load your g-code file (aug 20 2023roughing (1).nc) into my Journeyman 3D toolpath simulation, and set the workpiece zero for X and Y manually on +three inches, and Z to a height of 2.5 inches (-2.736 inches in machine coordinates), then there are no errors produced and the carve is simulated. However I donā€™t know if your workpiece is really there.

Here you can see the simulation (the blue box is the Journeyman workspace, the white box is to what your g-code program will move, green are G1 moves at feedrate, red are G0 fast moves):

Here I moved the bit to the workpiece zero (by entering ā€œG0 X0Y0Z0ā€ into the command entry field of the MDI Tab, and zooming in with the trackball ring (mouse wheel is also possible)):

So I donā€™t know where you get errors from.