Having waited since November 2024 for the ATC to arrive, which it did last month (July 25). I have now spent two days fitting it and running with the 3rd party WebUI. Thanks to Mitz for the video which I have followed to the letter. Ran the test and …. Smashed the ATC to bits the tool 1 in pocket 1 loaded as expected but did not clear in Z axis as expected just ran through Pocket 1 to the Tool Setter. Very disappointing and now almost junk… expensive error… Hay Hoh!
I suggest reaching out to Don at RapidChange, Onefinity as well, to see…
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What settings caused the crash, so that it can be corrected/avoided, and
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Find out what options are available to fix the ATC - most of the unit is modular on Onefinity’s version and could potentially be replaced depending on the damage.
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I now know what the issue was or is.. The Redline Spindle is mounted too low, so at Z zero very few tools would clear the ATC. Must have missed that warning in the instructions (mmmm!!). Now moved the spindle a little higher and ensured the longest tool I am likely to use clears the ATC. Rerun Z height adjust and enter new figure into the GUI, download the files to USB and rerun test….. Failed again… now the ATC wont load or unload any of the tools. Back to the drawing board…..
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Valuable learning!
What failures are you experiencing?
Are you testing individual pockets, or running the Tool Change Test program?
Sorry to hear that. Really. I’m not sure how much you destroyed, but if you have a 3D printer, I made the outer shroud as an .step and .stl. The forum that links to the files Good luck, and don’t lose heart.
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Failure 1.
Followed the documentation on Onefinity Resources. Ran Tool Change Test program which loaded tool 1, the drive tool one forward breaking the pocket, to the tool setter… Emergency stop of course..
Failure 1. Caused by Spindle being too low and Z Zero did not clear the pocket with the tool loaded.. Must have missed the warning in the pdf (if there was one)
failure 1… user error , however I may have managed a repair “SUPER GLUE”
Failure 2:
Adjusted height of spindle (the carriage is already at its highest mounting point). Re-ran Z height program and adjusted from 44.025 to 76.044. Saved new files to USB and ran Tool 1 empty. Then load tool 1. Now the spindle does not go low enough to engage the collet nut.
At a loss at the moment.
Regards
Mike
I don’t know anything about the ATC other than what is mention on this forum, but it seems to me that there must be a max and min length of tool extended beyond the collet nut. Plus a Z clearance setting?
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The maximum length below the collet is determined by the height of the ATC plus a few mm of clearance above the ATC and Z zero.
I learned that the hard way😁
Mike
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Are you able to share the ‘View profile detail’ page, found at the bottom of the settings window? You could take a screenshot of it.
I am very confident that we can get you up and running. Fortunately Don and his son have worked with Onefinity to keep the WebUI as simple as possible by reducing the required user input. If it is already finding the coordinates of your tool setter and pockets that is a lot of the work done. Also, make sure you are recording the machine coordinate for the Z height, but I believe the Find Z program gives a popup window that displays the value.
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I am not sure what/where the “View Profile Detail” is. Are you referring to the WebUI or MASSO?
The Find Z does not have a pop up with the Z hight displayed only a pop up that say record the Z Height which I am assuming is referring to the machine coordinates. Which I have entered into the WebUI before saving the subroutines..
Any help would be wonderful.
Kind regards
Mike
I had the same issues with spindle height but luckily noticed before and damage caused, then I had the issue with not loading the collet. Worked with the ATC team for several hours and after numerous setting had been changed by them we managed to get everything working.
I had to cut out my spoilboard around the ATC and mount it directly to the QCW.
I cannot believe its nearly a year now that I ordered this package and I am still waiting on the QCW ATC mounting, Onefinity should get the orders they already have fulfilled before introducing more new products, very disappointing from them.
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I guess I got so used to using my Onefinity CNC with the Redline Spindle mounted, in what I assumed was the correct position, there are no marks on my spindle to indicate what is a good mounting position. It never entered my head there would be an issue with the ATC. HA HA there was, and now the fault is in the opposite direction. I have gone through the Z axis setup under Masso F1and I have full range from about 5mm. Above the spoil board with just the collet nut fitted to the home position at the top of the axis. I am really stumped at the moment.
Can’t quite see why cutting the spoil board to mount the ATC helped. Must admit though it looks better like that, I will investigate mounting like that.
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The view profile in the WebUI - which from your posts looks to be what you are setting up - has a feature in the settings (small gear symbol top right) that allows you to view a summary of all your settings (scroll to the bottom of the settings window to see the option).
The Z height popup you are referring to is the same one I was describing.
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I bought a RapidChange QCW mount on Etsy a few weeks ago and it is very solid. Let me know if you want the link
I did order my ATC with the QCW mount only got a spindle spacer, not sure if there was more. Please send the Etsy link
I guess because I still used the mounting plate, so I attached the mounting plate to the QCW and then the ATC to the mounting plate. The mounting plate and the ATC on top of the spoilboard made it well too high. When I did work with support they altered the spacing between each collet and everything.
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Yes send me the link, I’ll have a look as spoken to Onefinity for an update and still no confirmed date for despatch
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All sorted now thanks to Don (and Onefinity Support). I had solved the issue of the tool not loading. This was a software issue when saving the WebUI subroutines, It appears that some of the routines where not being overwritten by the new ones. The second problem was when a new tool was being loaded from any of the 4 pockets an error occurred and an alarm. This was caused by MASSO holding in memory somewhere the last tool I used before installing the ATC in my case tool 24. Don sorted that out straight away, we made a 6th pocket and unloaded that tool. The next issue was that I had recorded pocket 1 position in the WebUI, as the machine coordinate for that pocket, when it should have been the tool setter location for all of the pockets including the manual pocket (5). Thanks to Don all sorted now…. Great stuff thanks guys
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