The units themselves are identical!
Yeah. But they said the tool setter wonât be ready until sometime 2025. So until then I donât see a point as a BB user.
I mean you might save a min or two for the tool change but then youâre still doing a manual probe.
Donât get me wrongâŚonce the tool setter is updated for the BB Iâm definitely looking at this pretty hard.
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I watched the livestream tonight on the ATC and Onefinity said itâs basically done just buttoning up some things and will be available very soon, so Iâm gonna go for it
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I have the original woodworker, purchased in 2021, with the Mikita router.
I would love to upgrade with the RapidChange ATC.
In order to do this I need to get the 80mm Onefinity Spindle Kit by Redline CNC and
the Onefinity Easy ATC by RapidChange ATC | Buildbotics. I will need to add on-
Pro Series easy adapter box and the tool setter.
My questions.
I have to get an 80 mm spindle mount. I have the z-16 slider, do I need the z-20 for this to work?
Pro Series easy adapter box will connect to my original series Onefinity?
If it does, that will allow me to use the tool setter?
Am I missing anything?
RapidChange ATC with Pro Series easy adapter box and the tool setter.
80mm, 1.5kw, Spindle Kit by Redline CNC
80mm Spindle Mount for Z16
New Dust boot maybe 
If you are moving up to a Onefinity Spindle Kit by Redline CNC and have the orginal woodworker with a z16 with 65mm mount and want the Onefinity ATC also, you would need:
80mm mount for z16
ATC for buildbotics with pro box.
We recommend:
upgrading to an x50 rail for your X rail
adding a stiffy extra 3rd rail
z20 with 80mm
The above three would give you maximum rigidity with the much heavier 80mm spindle, but then again, how much deflection is ok (are we making simple sign cutouts or aerospace parts?) is up to the user to decide.
Iâd say go 80mm z-16 mount and see if the results are acceptable for your needs. If not, you can upgrade piece by piece until its to your liking!
I watched the livestream on YouTube. Near the end they showed the rapid changer in use. On the fourth change the collet and bit malfunctioned screwed incorrectly on spindle. They manually threaded and tightened the collar. Iâm now hesitant about purchasing it as that showed to be a 25% failure rate? If I have to stand around and watch the tool changes for errors it defeats it purpose. Additionally, it would appear that if it once it would be measured by the tool setter it would be to low when cutting a damage the waste board, or air weight vacuum if used?
Thatâs hardly a large enough sample size to conclude a 25% failure rate with the product.
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Thatâs correctâthanks for responding! Actually it was brought to my attention by onefinity staff that it was an intended incident to show that if an error occurred the machine would stopâwhich I missed too. I appreciate yours and onefinityâs quick response as I needed clarity before I would purchase it Monday. Have a great weekend!
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So Masso is supporting the tool changer in their logic. Or does it require a custom post processor being provided by your team.
It was mentioned during the video that the failure rate is under 1% when using good parts.
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Masso is not currently supporting it with their tool changer logic. Don was able to accomplish it by using subroutines(M98) and connecting various Aux IOs. He has created a desktop app that helps set up all the parameters. There are videos online where he describes the whole process.
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Now we just need a means to message us if the system does fail. As long as failures are nondestructive and met by a simple error and stop, thats no deal breaker.
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The screen does pop up a message alert. I just wasnât able to show the screen during the live stream. Failures are quite rare with proper clamping nuts but handled safely and gracefully.
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We currently have post processors for Fusion and Vectric products. Carveco coming soon. The main difference in post processors is that it calls the appropriate subroutine as opposed to the mainstream M06 T#
For instance line N30 calls the subroutine for tool 1 instead of M06 T1
N25 M5
N30 M98 P631
N35 S8000 M3
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We have a web UI for configuring different controllers like Masso G3, the BB etc. Switching from one controller to another is no problem and requires no additional purchase.
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So why not just buy the $500 version direct from Rapidchange ?
Great question and the ATCs on their site have the dust cover too
The linear magazines on the website require the dust boot to be removed before a tool change. The towers allow the dust boot to straddle the tool pocket while changing tools. A dust boot would crash into the original linear magazine.
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The main thought is that being able to keep the dust boot in place during the tool change any ambient dust accumulation would be taken care of by the dust boot.
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Thank you for clarifying