I hate to be one of those guys but I have been trying for several days get my machine back to where it probes and goes to the work piece zero. I upgraded to the new software 5.04b.(Yes I know I shouldn’t have). But I did the print out of all the settings as originally configured in case I needed them.
Everytime I probe using the XYZ block placed on the bottom left corner of the work piece, probing the outside top right corner of the block, I move to set Z on the top and lift to put my dust boot on and start up. Hit rewind, cycle start and the machine moves off to the right rear by 8 to 10" and starts cutting air (lucky its not lowering and cutting clamp bolts). My tools are numbered.
I reloaded the .htg configuration files and have double checked all against the printout I originally made.
I am sure I’m missing something or not configuring something I didn’t print out.
I can do it by eye and paper zeroing out on the corner and it makes the cut fine.
I have contacted 1F support and they tried but ended up referring me to Masso. I think they were frustrated with me being a dummy not knowing the difference between htg files and the firmware.
I wonder if anyone might be able to give me some guidance.
Did you set your probe blocks parameters?
Is your file matched for on top the wasteboard?
When you hit start does it instantly move, or does it take like 6 seconds and then move?
What is the machine reading after you probe as far as your xyz working coordinates (the big numbers, not the machine coords, the small numbers)?
I know mine sometimes does some funky stuff sometimes, but it works out in the end.
Thanks yes ref measurements of the block, the design file and tool path are anchored in the same lower left corner, it’s an Elite so it takes a bit then moves right over. I can not recall the numbers but I’m almost sure they aren’t matching the work corner. It never moves over to the start corner. If I tap go to work coordinates is raises z and moves away up and to the right rather than the bottom left corner I’m setting it at. Gotta be some thing I’m missing. I keep seeing a G54 coordinate that changes when I re zero.
When you probe, go to the mdi screen and type
G0x0y0
Those are zeros not oh’s
If it doesnt go where it’s supposed to in the corner where your xy orgin is… i would say check your blocks parameters and make sure your orienting it on the correct corner according to which corner its on… might even do xy in isolation so their not done at the same time. Take a pic of your block and the screen, then show which one you’re hitting
If you’re air cutting, make sure it’s not tool 0 that is loaded or put in your gcode.
That’s great thanks. I’ll try it in a bit when I get into the shop and will advise.
Getting muddle headed staring at all the pages on the screen and repeating the same mistakes over. I forgot about go x0 y0.
Scott
Just to have an idea I checked the coordinates of the work piece, lining up a v bit (after homing on startup).
The results were z-work surface= -6.0994, x=11.5417, y= 5.9774.
Moved away and set the xyz block on bottom left corner of work probed to outside right corner of the block. Moved z up and over and touched off the top of the block. Didn’t do anything else. Entered go x0y0 and it moves back and to the right +x & +y To xO.0006 y0.0000. Didn’t check z think it stayed at point it was at when it lifted off the bloc.
Should I be manually zeroing before I lift up and move over to zero z. I haven’t zeroed out anything. Am I leaving a step out?
Rechecked that I measured inside edges of block and they’re correct.
Probing z doesn’t do anything for xy and based off what you said it was reacting appropriate, and it going to .0006x and .0000y is basically what you should expect with entering g0x0y0.
If your using that top right one, as the arrow depicts that would be the one you want based on the offsets your using, but in your writeup you just did z. Rule of thumb, a vbit isn’t the best for xy, especially if it protrudes from the shank diameter. If you probe below that point, not good either.
I only probe xy with a 1/4" endmill, then you can change bits to the vbit and probe z
Chris
Thank you for your help.
Yes you are correct ref the vbit I was just trying to get an accurate location. I usually use a straight bit too.
I went onto the Masso forum comments page for the G3 - v5.04b update. There I saw that Ben Meyers had posted that he had found that the settings for his touch block although the same were missing the - (negative symbol) causing the same problem I had.
Sure enough I looked and no negative symbol. I don’t know how many times I looked at, re-measured and verified those numbers and still missed that. That’s why it was moving the wrong direction.
Really thank you for your help.
Glad you got it figured out… haven’t played with 5.03b myself. I was going to but discovered you lose all your settings and tools and after i found out how to back that up i got busy