# Foreman setup Problems (solved, out of square)

I am a newbie and have set up my foreman. leveled and squared the table and have the foreman attached to the QCW frame. I have the Masso MPG pendant. I flattened the spoilboard and have no trouble moving the spindle with the pendant. However, when trying to grid the spoilboard,the machine jumps irregularly and seem to be related to the left sided guide rails. any suggestions on the cause or the fix? I have included a video.
thanks

That sure looks like a problem with paralleling. It is jumping, I suspect because it isnâ€™t set up squarely. Did you check corner to corner measurements for squareness? A 1/8 to 1/4 inch out of square reacts this way.

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Hey John,

as Jim already mentioned, this stuttering can appear on insufficiently squared machine. But it has to be coplanar too.

You have to ensure the machine is both, rectangular (â€śsquaredâ€ť) and coplanar.

For the first a quick check for rectangularity, you check for identical diagonals with a bar gauge (see link) that you put exactly where the chrome-plated hardened steel hollow shafts come out of the black aluminium extrusion feet. A later, better check, is to program and mill a rectangle with a v-bit around the limits of the workarea and then check the result for identical diagonals.

Note the before doing this identical diagonals check, you should use the bar gauge to also check if the rails between the two feet are identical on left and right! If they are not, the diagonals check would not be done in a parallelogram, but in a trapezoid, and therefore would be useless. The rails have first to have identical length on left and right.

The check for coplanarity is made with the two intersecting fishing lines. Be sure that if they touch each other in the middle, that you have to reverse them so that the other is on the underside and repeat the check if they touch. They have to touch each other in both cases, then the machine tabletop/machine base/QCW frame is coplanar (=all four feet are in one geometrical plane).

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Thanks.

Ive got my work cut out for me today

Thanks.

Ive got my work cut out for me today

Hey John,

has the issue disappeared or what did you do?

Or itâ€™s a motor like has been seen with other people. The machine is dead-easy to square, so Iâ€™m not sure how someone would mess this up badly enough to cause that issue. But I suppose anythingâ€™s possible.

I used the string method to check coplanarity and adjusted the table accordingly. Was off about 3/16 in one plane. Thanks again for the help.John

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