Onefinity is definitely on top of the game. Heck, their ‘Original’ series was already head-and-shoulders above the so-called ‘Pro’ series machines from other manufacturers, from a machine build standpoint.
3 Likes
Hi
What’s the real world improvement with the new stepper motors? I.e. What does it allow you to do that you couldn’t do before? E.g. Accelerate faster and how much? Move a heavier spindle better and how much? Cut more material and how much?
A comparison guide or some such would be useful to potential buyers.
Thanks.
The high torque steppers have been on ALL x-50 rails in existence and all z-20 z sliders so every one of the users know how the axis perform. This upgrade changes the two smaller steppers on the y1 and y2 to the same higher torque motors the x-50 x axis has and the z-20 z slider has.
3 Likes
Hey OnefinityCNC,
after the Easy-Z Tool setter (that was announced, but still missing) and the Z stepper motor with brake for the spindle drop issue that had appeared after having introduced the Z-20 “heavy” Z assembly with the steeper pitch ball screw (which shows how greatly you respond the to problems the users encounter with new features), now the PRO series (I also welcome the change in nomenclature) with -finally!-, a drag chain cable management, that are great news. Also the Auto Control Box (coming soon) will be a great optional addition to make your machine one that will have more features that users simply expect and don’t want to be in need to retrofit to the machine. So it was clear that you had the important things on your list and prioritized them. Sincere congratulations!
But is this drag chain on the PRO Series the same too small (30 mm) drag chain that may surprise you with suddenly doing this?
2 Likes
It is, and it’s not meant for water lines that are hanging off cantilevering the drag chain.
Hey OnefinityCNC,
but with 30 mm width, it’s rather inevitable to use them if you want to use a water-cooled spindle, and you wouldn’t offer the Drag Chain Extenders for Water Cooled Spindle Lines if you didn’t see the need that many users have, namely those who, since the beginning of your project, want to use water-cooled spindles. I think the decision to choose 30 mm drag chain width and now to stick with it, was not the best decision.
We don’t offer them, our third party partner does.
We don’t support spindles.
Thanks for your input.
This answer feels defensive, expected more from 1F. Expectation from me is : if on web site, it is tested and promoted 3rd party product, supported by 3rd party. Just saying what I am thinking in the moment.
My Journeyman X-50 axis and Z-20 axis have different steppers motor part numbers. They are both the 23HS30-2804S but X-50 is labeled “23HS30-2804S-C1” while the Z-axis has a “23HS30-2804S-C5”. I’m asking because I replaced the Z-20 stepper with one from Stepper on-line that has a built in brake. I’m in the process of adding a board that’ll monitor the both phases going to the Z axis and will lock the brake if it doesn’t detect holding current. So I have a spare Stepper that could be used for one of the two steppers needed to upgrade the Y axis. I couldn’t find any information on StepperOnLine’s website.
Hey OnefinityCNC,
I just watched the drag chain assembly part of the Official Elite Upgrade Kit Assembly Video to have a closer look at this drag chain (you confirmed above that the Elite and the PRO drag chains will be identical)
The method with which the drag chain raceway is held in place is not very strong. On the one side, it is not even bolted to anywhere, just slid into a rectangular recess, and secured with two screws on the other side.
But it seems to me that it would be possible for users the mount a slightly wider raceway (if they are able to make a custom part) and chain, let’s say 40 mm, to the parts that hold it.
I have one question:
Is the drag chain raceway you deliver with the PRO Series and the Elite Upgrade made of plastic or of aluminium?
Hey Alex,
The support at omc-stepperonline.com is responsive, at least when I asked them questions.
1 Like
I did reach out to them and I suspect I’ll hear back this week. I just thought I would ask here as well.
Mine are both C1 versions.
I believe they refer to the last Cxx designation as the motor ‘custom code’.
It will be interesting to see the answer.
Curious as to whether it is related to an actual motor parameter, cable configuration, or particular OEM designation.
I got an answer back from Stepper On Line. The C number is just the length of the wires coming out of the stepper.
4 Likes
The raceway appears to be custom bent aluminum (It does look well made and appears to work just fine as designed for the stock config). I just completed my Elite upgrade and removed my custom made raceways, but I will most likely make a few adjustments to my old setup to work with the elite brackets so I can use the the wider 50mm raceway I was using before. It is just too hard/near impossible to include my air assist and laser cables in the existing raceway provided by Onefinity without pinching the air line… Let alone trying to incorporate spindle cable/water cooled lines…
1 Like
Are there any updates that need to be done to the stepper motors for the speed controls ?