I decided to take a couple hours and source some stuff, see what was viable for me. Turns out 6-30R/P and extension cords are a bit harder to come by, but L14-30 is much more available (and benefit of locking plugs). I can simply ignore one of the 4 prongs and that’ll work for my needs. So here is what I came up with, I’ve removed the links to specific products on amazon, but the pricing is accurate as of what I could order today.
Sub-Panel 2 Pole 30a Breaker - $30
Teck Cable (6awg, 65a rating I think? will replace 1 existing 6-20R with 14-30C, already have this wired to reuse with new socket)
Use this cable from power source to cabinet leaving ends intact
25 foot 10awg extension cord - $66
Cheapest way to get 10awg, it’s more expensive to get raw cable without the ends
Cut ends off and create one 10 foot segment from cabinet L14-30P Receptacle to switch
Enclosed 240v 30a switch - $60
Cut second 5 foot segment of 10awg cord from switch to VFD
Total: ~$280
I still have to find a source for some shielded 14/4 (lots of unshielded, but hard to source shielded), but from what I have found from expensive sources (digikey.ca) I’m estimating about $6 per foot, so expecting to pay about $90 for a 15 foot length, I will solder the connector myself I’m not shy of this work and I have a Hakko station for the extra heat required.
Anyone in Canada aware of a solid source for 14/4 shielded?
Edit: I was able to find one source for 30 feet of shielded 14/4 with extreme flexibility meant for automation, it’ll run me about $140, but overall that’s pretty reasonable price at $70 for the 15 feet I need. Guess I’ll just throw the remainder into the rats nest of extra stuff.
Also, here’s a few images of what I’m working with so far.
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Hey Shane,
What you need is shielded “motor cable” 3+PE.
But if I had bought a cheap spindle with this flimsy “aviation” connector, which is no spindle motor connector, I would rather follow the tip I made here:
I am in Toronto, and buy mostly Igus cable direct from their online site, or Lapp cable through Digikey. They both have shielded cable appropriate for VFD/spindle use.
I saw your EDIT - you would need to compare cost, and perhaps specs such as bend radius, cable chain continuous flex use, etc.
Today is a Good Day!!! Got my Journeyman Elite Upgrade!!!
She arrived in pristine shape, the boxes were packaged extremely well and the new 48" X-Axis was even double boxed ensuring its safe arrival. Only thing I lost was a single screw on one of the Drag Chain supports, UPS banged up the end of that box and it got unthreaded from the Aluminum and fell out.
I was upset with UPS until I watched the video of the poor guy hauling this beast up to my front porch. I’ll just get another $.25 screw.
Thank you @OnefinityCNC for taking such meticulous care in packaging my new baby!
Now just need to take apart old faithful and send back the X-Axis, the old steppers, controller & screen with the included return label… Oh ya I get to build a new table too.
This time I think I’m going to go with a welded subframe with a wood exoskeleton.
Can’t wait to join the Elites once I’m able to power her up!
Check whether you need replacement feet, it depends on how old your machine is. Old machines are missing the hole to reach the coupling screws. If you need to replace, contact 1F and they will send them through to you.
Hello, Thank you for the comment, It is actually 3 colors of Metallic Epoxy that the Wife and I did when we built our house. That was a fun 4 days for sure. We also poured 5 color in the hose as well that came out even better.
Every time someone comes over the floors are a main attraction. It really is a great way to go, dust/sawdust sweep up effortlessly, wood glue drips fleck right off of it. We don’t even really put anything on the floor when we do laminations if we get 10 drops of glue on it you just take a putty knife and it flakes right off.
Here is how the house floor came out… totally different look but same process. It was one of the more challenging parts of the house build (stress wise) there is very little forgiveness time wise as the Epoxy working time is <30min and you have to get all the colors mixed and laid out before it starts to harden.
So glad we did it! Its had 5 years of use and it still looks amazing.
I will check this morning. I ordered my woodworker very early on (got it Dec 27th 2019), so I’m sure I will need the new feet. I’ll double check today and reach out to support.
Thanks again for the heads up before I took my WW apart and shipped the parts back.
I love the @OnefinityCNC quality, not so much shipping times. Does @OnefinityCNC plan to or would consider having a payment option for an accelerated build delivery or 2. Foregoing the test cuts and practice runs and let me rely on my warranty since the quality is usually isnt an issue.
I just ordered the kit, while I did it primarily for the Masso controller, I am curious is the new stepper motors, particularly the Z-slider motor, are faster than the original closed loop motors. I do a lot of 3-d geographical reliefs, and the z-axis really slows things down.
I have been working with my Woodworker X-50 for a couple of years now. I am just a hobbyist, and sometimes a couple of weeks will go by that I don’t use my CNC at all. But I have been eyeing the Elite upgrade ever since Onefinity first introduced it. Every so often I would go onto the OnefinityCNC.com site, put the upgrade kit into my cart, and just stare at it deciding whether or not I should pull the trigger. Then I would chicken out and close the page.
I honestly can’t say that I NEED the elite upgrade, because as a hobbyist, increased production isn’t a concern. I don’t NEED the closed loop steppers, though there have been times when being able to restart a cut from where I left off would have been very handy. I don’t NEED the homing sensors, as the stall homing has worked well for me thus far. And at a cost of around $2300, it’s pretty hard for me to justify the upgrade to myself.
But in the end, it’s not about need. It’s about the excitement of improving my CNC machine and the anticipation of exploring the new features, as well as being prepared to take advantage of new products that are, and will be, applicable only to the Elite and newer machines.
So . . . today I once again went to the upgrade page, put the X-50 Elite upgrade kit into my cart (along with the tool setter) and this time I pulled the trigger!
Besides the CNC itself, I think you will enjoy and appreciate what the Masso controller offers. As my first controller, I found the interface clean, intuitive, and the controller itself has almost all the functionality I would ever want…for now
Thank you! I’m looking forward to exploring the differences between the Buildbotics and the Masso controllers.
I’m also looking forward to checking out the differences between my current Z-16 Z slider, and the new heavy Z-20 slider that will be coming with the Elite upgrade.
Also, the tool setter should be a quicker and easier way to re-home after a bit change, in addition to being more accurate.
What the heck . . . it’s only money (hard earned and precious though it may be . . )
Can I ask if you considered buying the promo elite campaign Onefinity has going on?
3800 USD for a new elite woodworker (which comes with the Z-20) including an air cooled spindle and ATC and easy Z setter. No need to swap parts and send back old ones.
I understand it needs more investment initially, but I’m sure someone would be interested in buying a good used one around 1500 USD?
I recognise the process you went through. I am also an enthusiastic amature CNCer. In the end I squared away the cost by saying to myself that others probably spend more on their bikes, golf memberships, cars, smokes (…add your friends interests here …), etc than I do on my machining hobby.
Doing the upgrade wasn’t too bad. Make sure you do the couplings correct and double check while you have access as you don’t want to unpick your work to check after the upgrade. The cable track is great but it does get in the way of making changes down the line.
Actually, I hadn’t considered that at all, and now I feel pretty stupid about that. While the ATC is not something that I ever considered, having an air cooled spindle IS something that I have been thinking about. In the end, I probably could have had a new Elite Woodworker with the spindle (and the ATC) for roughly the same price as I’m paying for the Elite upgrade.
On the other hand, installing the upgrade should be a lot less hassle than having to disassemble my current setup and find someone reasonably local to buy my current X-50, but I might have gone that route had I had the sense to look into it.
At this point, having already ordered the Elite upgrade, I’m going to stay the course and just accept that I could have made a smarter choice.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Perhaps next time (if there is a next time), I will do a better job of due diligence before I pull the trigger!
I like your thinking, and now I have a little less buyers remorse . And I appreciate your tips on doing the upgrade.
Might I impose upon you to tell me what you think of the Elite as compared to the original? I’d love to know what you like most about the Elite, and any other thoughts you have about the upgrade.
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…), etc than I do on my machining hobby.
. And I appreciate your tips on doing the upgrade.