I’m a relatively new customer, but OneFinity seems like a pretty standup company trying to do the right thing for its customers. My impression is that they are assembling these units from parts ordered from elsewhere, i.e., China, and are probably dealing with some challenging supply chain issues. A shortage of one part can bring things to a halt. Check out Altmill CNCs—they routinely take 3-4 months to process an order.
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The ‘threat’ of tariffs threw a big wrench into the estimated time tables. Everyone in the west jumped from ocean shipping to air freight. What we once could get in 3 days, now takes 3-4 weeks. We never had ‘potential tariffs and it’s repercussions’ on our 2024 bingo card when making projections.
Here’s where our estimates are right now (3-1-25) for:
Spindles:
We completed shipping orders 51XXX in February (tracking should be in your emails). We expect to fulfill orders 52xxx by the end March, Orders 53xxx are anticipated to ship by the end of April, with 54xxx+ following closely behind.
ATC and Rotary:
The preorder for our Rotary was originally estimated to begin at the end of January and ATCs were originally estimated to begin shipping at the end of February. However, we are still waiting on a few parts, and we expect shipments to begin in the later part of March.
The first units will start shipping with order numbers 51xxx, which we aim to fulfill by March/April. Orders 52xxx are expected to follow in April, 53xxx in May, and 54xxx+ in June. As we ramp up production, we hope to shorten lead times for orders 53xxx–54xxx+ before June.
We want nothing more than to ship all these items yesterday. We’re working day and night diligently with our suppliers and Redline to get these items out as soon as possible.
We do have a reducer shim file here if you would like to get cutting before your spindle shows up. Some users may have the Makita router and 3d printer on hand, and this would get you going in the mean time (and is a great backup to keep on hand incase there is ever an emergency ‘this needs to get finished tonight!’ situation).
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A company I use to work for makes electronic components. Back when I started the company madeparts based on estimated demand. Then came an economic downturn. Suddenly we had racks off of half processed parts because our customers weren’t placing the orders we expected. They stacked up like cordwood.
They switched to what’s called lean manufacturing. They stopped building ahead but still tried to predict sales. It was based on how quickly we could get the parts needed and how long it would take us to assemble them. The concept it each work station has one item it’s working on and the next one to be worked on. If something happens and production grinds to a stop the whole line stops so one station isn’t cranking out work and flooding the next station that’s waiting for parts so it can do it’s operation.
My point is that it’s all based off of how long it takes to get the materials needed. If you can get them in 3 days and you expect to sell 100 a day you base your ordering from that information. You also base your delivery dates based on how long it takes to build the item. When something goes awry it plays havoc.
1F could have waited until they had a massive supply so getting the needed parts to make them wasn’t an issue. However that would have tied up capital and required more space (which means a higher selling price). It also means they wouldn’t have announced the products last fall. Plus, since they were expecting the demand they received, they would have still ran out and the delay would have been even longer since ordering wouldn’t have started until this month (for the rotary).
I’m, for one, looking forward to getting the rotary. If it’s this month, great. If it was back in january, that would have been awesome. But in 6 months from now it I doubt I’ll even remember. I’m doing just fine without it and I’m sure there’s going to be a learning curve needed to get the most out of it. I’m sure 1F would love to deliver what we ordered as quickly as possible. But, sometimes, life doesn’t always work out as expected.
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I did some math on just the pending orders not shipped yet. there are over 1500 of them that are listed. At an average of 4000 dollars some, like mine, are nearly double that. That is over 6 million dollars that onefinity has in advance, Interest free. WOW. I pray they use it well. At least we know they are not hurting for cash.
Except they have to pay for all the parts needed to make a machine, pay for their employees, and pay to keep the lights on in their shop. I’m not defending them but it’s not 100% profit when they make a sale. If they are missing one part that’s stuck in shipping yet sold, say 1000 rotaries, then most likely they have all the other parts to make 1000 rotaries that they had to pay for.
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Integrity matters regardless of how cool your product is. At least one “lucky” soul will get their rotary sooner than planned. I cancelled my order and went with the other company that I can’t mention, or will have this post deleted or EDITED to make it look like I said something I didn’t. Bigger chuck, will be here in 3 days, and costs $400 less.
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hopefully it will be mine, Onefinity pick me, pick my order number please. 
All kidding aside, I will just wait till 1F ships mine, I know they will, they are a good company. Plus i want a rotary that will work and not have to be on centerline of part, I want mine to able to move in X,Y,Z & A all at the same time. that is a must for me. But that is just my requirement. Which from what i have heard, the 1F Rotary is the only one on the market that will do it. So i will wait. The missing part they are waiting on I really do not believe is their fault, It sucks waiting guy’s, I get it. I am sick of waiting as well, But i will wait on our brothers and sisters north of the border to get me my rotary. There great people.
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Regarding going to X,Y,Z and A ,I have the Masso and set my rotary to use G-57 offset and once I have these setup one time , anytime I use my Rotary I use G-57 and they are all setup as well
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thats a good idea, But what i was referring to is, if what i read is correct. all the other rotarys when using the A axis, it can’t move in Y. the centerline of the endmill stays on centerline of the part. I want mine to be able to move in XYZA, in all axis at the same time. i don’t want my Rotary tied to the y axis. from what i have read, the 1F is the only one that will be able to do that.
the other brands, when you are cutting with the rotary, the y will never move, endmill just stuck on centerline while the rotary goes round and round. man i hope that makes since.
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based on what?
this is not an accurate statement
#1, Based on my interactions with them and that’s all i care about.
#2 well thats what i read, all the ones i searched dropped the y axis when using the rotary, I searched that about 2 weeks before 1F released theirs. i could not find a single one. so if there is one, send a link. Prove me wrong, i would honestly like to know cause i couldn’t find one.
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I knew they were going to release it, but it does not say if it is totally live and can move off y. if it does thats cool, we got options. but it does not say on the descrip.
they already said they were not going to charge Tariffs on products atleast already ordered.
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Not an expert but pretty sure this would be a function of the CAM program and Post Postprocessor, Vectric does what you describe, disables the Y Axis or what ever axis you are set up on, but the Masso control will control all 4 axis independent of each other, the Rotary Unit itself will only do what it is told to do.
Fusion as well as many other industrial CAM packages will do true 4 axis work, Vectric will not, not sure about Aspire.
My 2 cents worth.
Pat
If you have an Elite with the Masso controller and don’t want to wait then there’s options out there. However if you have the BB controller 1F’s option is the best option available since it’s limited to only four axis. If you don’t mind a belt drive rotary then finding cheaper would be easy. However I bought the 1F years ago because it didn’t use belts. A harmonic drive is superior to a belt drive. But they are also more expensive.
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Yes, I think there might be some overlapping of terms when it comes to 4th axis. There (might) be some confusion between having a 4 axis machine…and “4 axis machining”.
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I think everyone is forgetting that the elite atleast, uses 2 axis for the Y so both rails home out and make sure both rails are square. when using some of the other brands you will have to unplug one of the y axis and use as a rotary. but with the 1F rotary they have another thing that does it. I was going to build one and was watching all the videos of people that had done it and looked at wiring diagrams.
there was a write up on it here on this forum. they even had the wire scematics on it on how to do it. but it dropped the y. Which is why i ordered the 1F rotary.
Yes your cam has something to do with it to an extent, aspire and carvco both output dead on Y and wont move in Y, I bought Both. thats why i program in mastercam, which will do whatever i tell it to do.
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You can connect the 4th axis directly to the G2 board without disconnecting the slave for the Y axis, it is a 5 axis control.
Pat
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ahhhh, Very nice. changes things huh.
I am not worried about the tariffs. Trump has already said basically you drop yours and we’ll drop ours. It is just a matter of time before businesspeople and citizens come to their senses and demand their governments see the light.
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