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[jgalin (Jeff Galin)]

After many questions to Chris and Daniel at PwnCNC, I believe I finally have the right information. They have been phenomenal at responding to my questions and offering advice. It turns out, the standard H20 cable that they sell with their spindle and VFD has the exact same connector as the Huanyang 2.2kw 220 80mm spindle. And, it turns out that the setup I demonstrate above requires a wire that is a minimum of 16’ but can work effectively with one that size. So, it looks like, I just got the wrong cable the first time. I am going to purchase the H20 and repost here to let you know if it works as they suggest it will. After that, I will promote the heck out of it.

Thanks, Aiph5u for your information on building my own cable, but I don’t feel confident doing that for tthe Huanyang spindle because the connector is fragile, has a tight diameter, and is easy to screw up.

[Aiph5u (Aiph5u (not affiliated with Onefinity))]

Hey Jeff,

my spindle (Datasheet) has a Phoenix M17 connector, and I bought what I need to make the cable myself.

@Aiph5u

Phoenix #1624537 – ST-3ES1N8A8005 - Cable connector

This connector is assembled this way:

– Source: M17 Cable connector - ST-3ES1N8A8005
1624537 → Downloads → package slip

You need a four-mandrel crimp pliers for turned contacts with its crimp locator set to the correct depth for the matching contact.

@Aiph5u

Just the recommended crimp pliers for them, SF-Z0025 and SF-Z0054 are a little pricey, but what do you expect from crimping pliers that have a computer and a display in it. Happily our good old and world-renowned pliers manufacturer Knipex, pliers manufacturer since 1882, offers crimp pliers for turned contacts too, so I am happy to use the good old Knipex 975264 (or no more in production, use 975263 instead)

@Aiph5u

Note that the gold-plated, turned contacts are to order separately in the version matching to your wire strength.

Phoenix #1607658 – ST-20KS020 - Turned crimp contact (version for 1…2.5 mm² wire

If you are able to remove the back cover of the spindle,

– Source: Still a bit unclear on proper spindle grounding – cnczone.com

you could replace the connector and use the serious industry-grade Phoenix M17 Motor Power connector that my spindle uses.

The matching connector on the spindle would be this one or this one for device side:

@Aiph5u

Here is the socket found on my spindle:

Phoenix #1628924 – M17-3EP1N8AW500S

See → this thread for more information.

@Aiph5u

Its manufacturer web page number is mentioned in this posting. Here the matching contact: (to order separately)

Phoenix #1607656 – ST-20KP020 - Crimp contact

What I describe here would allow you to

1. make your spindle cable yourself
2. avoid any soldering, as it is crimped
3. avoid “aviation” connectors that cannot cope with the needed thicker spindle power cables

Further Reading

• 80mm upgrade cable question – Post #21 by Aiph5u
• Where to get Spindle Cable – Post #1 by Aiph5u

[Aiph5u (Aiph5u (not affiliated with Onefinity))]

Hey Jeff,

@jgalin

So, it looks like, I just got the wrong cable the first time. I am going to purchase the H20 and repost here to let you know if it works as they suggest it will.

the forum will appreciate the shared experience. Thanks!

[jgalin (Jeff Galin)]

As promised, I am offering an update to my quest for a spindle cable above. The 16’ PwnCNC spindle cable H20 with spade connectors is exactly what I needed. It fit the Huanyang 2.2kw 80 mm spindle perfectly and was the exact length I needed to run through my drag chain to the VFD.

NOTE: I also discovered that I needed to purchase a controller cable for the Masso controller on my Elite Journeyman. PwnCNC also has that cable for $29.00. Their standard controller cable for the PwnCNC spindle and VFD in their custom VFD housing has aviation connectors on both sides. I needed the following one instead: Control Cable – PwnCNC. It has the g12 6-pin connector on the side that will connect to the Masso controller and generic ferrule connectors that will wire to the VFD. Vince has posted a video on setting up the HuanYang VFD with wiring charts for both cables and the settings needed in the Masso controller. You can find this video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTqbuDU5p1g&ab_channel=Corvetteguy50. Masso also posted the wiring configuration (VFD/SPINDLE wiring schematic for Elite Masso machines) and settings for the controller cable at: Spindle Control.

I know this information is also spread across several existing threads, but if hobbyists could find it all in one place, it would really help. As usual, thanks to Aiph5u for helping me find a lot of this material.